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Subject: [Leica] the ultimate digest Leica criticism thread
From: philippe.amard at sfr.fr (Philippe Amard)
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:01:01 +0100
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Steve and George,
if I may,
and quoting from memory:

'You can't teach anyone anything, you may only place them in a position 
where they may learn;'

It's been my motto for many years, at home and abroad.
Amiti?s
Philippe


George Lottermoser wrote:

> Hi Steve,
>
> I suspect we're a whole lot closer to the truth with this revision,
> "those who can't (or don't) do tend to pontificate."
>
> (and further, pontificating does not equal teaching)
>
> ;~)
>
> Regards,
> George Lottermoser
> george at imagist.com
> http://www.imagist.com
> http://www.imagist.com/blog
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>
> On Nov 2, 2009, at 2:07 PM, Steve Barbour wrote:
>
>> hi George,  :-)
>>
>> as I expected, even with my apology to you included, this gets  
>> panned as it did a couple of years ago.
>>
>> I didn't say that the non doers are good teachers , just that they  
>> teach...
>>
>> I do believe that there is truth to this, if you allow that non  
>> doers teach, even though they are lousy teachers...
>>
>> me....I have always been a doer first, though also a teacher, for  
>> almost 40 years...I have seen the good, the bad, and the ugly...
>>
>> but, what I mean of course, is that folks that can't do, often  
>> present themselves as experts...
>>
>> (present company excepted...)
>>
>>
>> simple , ehh...
>>
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 2, 2009, at 11:51 AM, George Lottermoser wrote:
>>
>>> this "quote" needs to die.
>>> lousy teachers
>>> can't do
>>> or teach.
>>> every good teacher
>>> I ever knew (and know)
>>> could both do and teach.
>>>
>>> many doers I knew (and know)
>>> can't teach.
>>>
>>> doing steadily for 45 years
>>> taught at college level for 6 years
>>> and
>>> thankful for each good teacher in my life
>>>
>>> ;~)
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> George Lottermoser
>>> george at imagist.com
>>> http://www.imagist.com
>>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>>>
>>> On Nov 2, 2009, at 11:35 AM, Steve Barbour wrote:
>>>
>>>> "those that can't do, teach; and those that can't teach, teach gym"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> (and no disrespect to teachers, I was one)
>>>
>>>
>>>
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