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Subject: [Leica] Woman and Dog
From: steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 10:09:31 -0700
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On Sep 24, 2009, at 9:31 AM, George Lottermoser wrote:

> ;~)
> a hypothetical built on a hypothetical
> ;~)
>
> I truly appreciate color when well used;
> whether in photographs, paintings or sculptures.
> In each case the artist must make deliberative color choices.
> Choosing a monochrome palette
> is no different than choosing:
> a "full, as seen" palette
> a muted "agfachrome"
> a complementary
> a vibrant "velvia"
> a primary, or secondary
> or an "infrared" palette.
>
> Too often I look at photographs
> wherein the moment and light feels lost
> under the weight of of the color.
>
> I enjoy the often quoted,
> "photography is just another form of pointing."
> "a hey, look at this." ?>
> which includes
> "hey, look at this ?> COLOR
> or
> "Look at this ?> light, form, moment, expression, line, value,  
> event, composition, et al
>
> always worth considering
> "what do I want you to look at and/or think about while looking at  
> this photograph"
> often my answer is,
> "not these colors."
>
> probably because
> I've spent 50 years loving
> the poetic effect
> and simplicity
> of black and white photographs


brilliantly put George, in bw, so I can understand,

:-)

Steve


>
> Regards,
> George Lottermoser
> george at imagist.com
> http://www.imagist.com
> http://www.imagist.com/blog
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>
> On Sep 24, 2009, at 10:30 AM, Neil Beddoe wrote:
>
>> Somebody asked me once whether anyone would print black and white  
>> if colour photography had been invented first.  I don't know but I  
>> think it would be a lot less common.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: lug-bounces+neil.beddoe=raidllp.com at leica-users.org  
>> [mailto:lug-bounces+neil.beddoe=raidllp.com at leica-users.org] On  
>> Behalf Of George Lottermoser
>> Sent: 24 September 2009 16:28
>> To: Leica Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Woman and Dog
>>
>> When I shot film (for self-expressive work)
>> It was primarily B&W.
>> I always had color film along
>> in case a "color subject" presented itself.
>>
>> Digital hasn't changed that much for me.
>> If color does not have a reason to be in the photograph
>> it continues to feels like a visual distraction for me.
>>
>> The color felt to have a purpose
>> in each of the photographs on this page
>> <http://www.imagist.com/blog/?p=1660>
>> The color served no purpose
>> in fact were a distraction
>> in the b&w images on the page.
>>
>> All very personal of course.
>>
>> Regards,
>> George Lottermoser
>> george at imagist.com
>> http://www.imagist.com
>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>>
>> On Sep 24, 2009, at 9:03 AM, Neil Beddoe wrote:
>>
>>> That's the exact opposite to the way I think now.  With a film
>>> camera it tends to be whatever I've got in the camera and if it's
>>> mono film then I see it in mono when I shoot it.  If it's colour
>>> film or I'm using a digital camera, I see it in colour and print it
>>> in colour.  It never even occurs to me to use a digital camera for
>>> mono pictures.
>>>
>>> Neil
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: lug-bounces+neil.beddoe=raidllp.com at leica-users.org
>>> [mailto:lug-bounces+neil.beddoe=raidllp.com at leica-users.org] On
>>> Behalf Of George Lottermoser
>>> Sent: 24 September 2009 14:58
>>> To: Leica Users Group
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Woman and Dog
>>>
>>> The black and white holds more appeal to my eyes.
>>>
>>> I usually ask myself, in these cases:
>>> Why color?
>>> To what purpose?
>>> Did I make the exposure because of the color?
>>> Does the color demand to be part of this photograph?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> George Lottermoser
>>> george at imagist.com
>>> http://www.imagist.com
>>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>>>
>>> On Sep 23, 2009, at 7:19 PM, Lluis Ripoll wrote:
>>>
>>>> It is not usual I post the same picture in Color and B&W, on this
>>>> case I really hesitate..
>>>>
>>>> This was shot in Lisboa, one of the most wonderful cties I've been
>>>> for the third time on my life and found a lot of nice life subjects
>>>> to photograph. On the next days I will post more.
>>>>
>>>> This one was shot on the Alfama area (Lisboa), M8 with Tri Elmar
>>>>
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Portugal/ 
>>>> L1010088bw.jpg.html
>>>>
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Portugal/ 
>>>> L1010088+1.jpg.html
>>>>
>>>> Thank you very much for looking, your c&c will really help me
>>>>
>>>> And a final recommendation, visit Portugal!
>>>>
>>>> Saludos cordiales
>>>> Lluis
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Lluis Ripoll
>>>> luisripoll at telefonica.net
>>>>
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/
>>>> http://photo.net/photos/lluisripoll
>>>> Blog:
>>>> http://lluisripollphotography.wordpress.com/
>>>>
>>>> http://www.lrmusic.es
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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