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Subject: [Leica] ZEISS BIOTAR 58/2 TEST --> To Marc J. Small
From: luisripoll at telefonica.net (Lluis Ripoll)
Date: Fri Dec 19 13:57:33 2008
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I didn't know Robert, thanks for the information

Lluis



El 19/12/2008, a las 4:16, Robert Meier escribi?:

> No, cosmetically is what I meant -- that is, it looks just like the  
> 50/2.8 Tessar.
>
> On Dec 18, 2008, at 5:06 PM, Lluis Ripoll wrote:
>
>> Yes Robert, but at least cosmetically the lens is quite different  
>> from the Tessar 2,8/50
>>
>> Saludos cordiales
>> Lluis
>>
>>
>> El 18/12/2008, a las 1:22, Robert Meier escribi?:
>>
>>> I know that lens!  it's the 50/2.8 Tessar I had on my first SLR,  
>>> the Praktica FX-3.   Semi-automatic, which meant I had to reopen  
>>> the diaphragm after each shot if I wanted to see through the lens  
>>> at f2.8.   It was a good, slow, but good, lens.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lluis Ripoll" 
>>> <luisripoll@telefonica.net 
>>> >
>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 4:24 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] ZEISS BIOTAR 58/2 TEST --> To Marc J. Small
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Marc,
>>>
>>> It is not a secret, the PENTACON is the model F, S/N 186012 the lens
>>> is marked JENA S/N 5505038. Here you can see the camera:
>>>
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8395836
>>>
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8395835
>>>
>>> as you can see it is very good condition and I've liked very much  
>>> have
>>> the opportunity to have this camera and this lens, my next test will
>>> be in color.
>>>
>>> About your statement I should say that I've read it somewhere on  
>>> Photo
>>> Net I think..., the Max Berek is a very good one too.
>>>
>>> I'll be delighted to share and discuss experiences with other users,
>>> yes, the lens is the same for Praktica, I've read on the I. Matanle
>>> book that Praktica was the successor brand name of the Pentacon.
>>>
>>> Thanks for looking and your interesting historicall comments
>>>
>>> Saludos cordiales
>>> Lluis
>>>
>>>
>>> El 17/12/2008, a las 5:43, Marc James Small escribi?:
>>>
>>>> At 07:55 PM 12/16/2008, Lluis Ripoll wrote:
>>>> >I've got a new camera too, a Pentacon with a Zeiss Jena Biotar  
>>>> 58/2,
>>>> >this is a nice lens, probably not si smooth as some Leica  
>>>> glasses but
>>>> >it has a nice rendition and transition from focus to non focus  
>>>> areas,
>>>> >as Dr.. Marc J. Small says "he never founded a bad Zeiss lens",  
>>>> I was
>>>> >quite influenced to try this once I've read his book, it is a  
>>>> cheap
>>>> >and amazing camera.
>>>>
>>>> Hmm.  Luis, could you be so kind as to send the model number of  
>>>> the Pentacon camera and its serial number, together with that of  
>>>> the  lens? Private e-mail, if you prefer.  I will share this with  
>>>> others  but only in sanitized format with your name not  
>>>> included.  There is  a very active Zeiss Ikon Collectors' Group  
>>>> and a Praktica Users'  Group where such cameras and lenses are  
>>>> actively discussed.
>>>>
>>>> All of the Praktica breed of cameras are grand picture-takers  
>>>> albeit  some are, I admit, a bit quirky.  And the 2/5.8cm Biotar,  
>>>> later the  2/58mm Biotar, is a most fascinating lens, having been  
>>>> calculated by  the mavens of Jena when they were first  
>>>> recognizing the impact that  coating would have on optical  
>>>> performance.  It first was designed in  1939, incidentally, as  
>>>> part of a project from the odd-ball Noble  owners of KW, and this  
>>>> also resulted in the M42 mount.  The lens  survives in production  
>>>> today in a Post-Soviet form used on Zenit  SLR's, made by the KMZ  
>>>> works nearby to Moscow.  A continuous  production for a  
>>>> photographic lens for almost seventy years mst set  some sort of  
>>>> a record.
>>>>
>>>> I would retract a flat statement that "I never met a Zeiss lens  
>>>> I  didn't like", as I have met some which I found, well, not of  
>>>> the  first water. Allow me to amend this statement to one which  
>>>> Max  Berek would applaud, that I have never met a Zeiss lens not  
>>>> fully  capable of great use. Almost all are cutting edge but,  
>>>> then, some  of them pushed too hard, though they are still  
>>>> capable opticks.
>>>>
>>>> Marc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> msmall@aya.yale.edu
>>>> Cha robh b?s fir gun ghr?s fir!
>>>>
>>>>
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