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Subject: [Leica] ZEISS BIOTAR 58/2 TEST --> To Marc J. Small
From: robertmeier at usjet.net (Robert Meier)
Date: Wed Dec 17 16:23:01 2008
References: <7FED1040-7983-4ACB-8037-A10CA1DAF9A3@telefonica.net><20081217045522.8089B7DF34@barracuda.rutabaga.org> <83F09D71-CC98-48ED-9465-EDD4E41569F8@telefonica.net>

I know that lens!  it's the 50/2.8 Tessar I had on my first SLR, the 
Praktica FX-3.   Semi-automatic, which meant I had to reopen the diaphragm 
after each shot if I wanted to see through the lens at f2.8.   It was a 
good, slow, but good, lens.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lluis Ripoll" <luisripoll@telefonica.net>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] ZEISS BIOTAR 58/2 TEST --> To Marc J. Small


Hi Marc,

It is not a secret, the PENTACON is the model F, S/N 186012 the lens
is marked JENA S/N 5505038. Here you can see the camera:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8395836

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8395835

as you can see it is very good condition and I've liked very much have
the opportunity to have this camera and this lens, my next test will
be in color.

About your statement I should say that I've read it somewhere on Photo
Net I think..., the Max Berek is a very good one too.

I'll be delighted to share and discuss experiences with other users,
yes, the lens is the same for Praktica, I've read on the I. Matanle
book that Praktica was the successor brand name of the Pentacon.

Thanks for looking and your interesting historicall comments

Saludos cordiales
Lluis


El 17/12/2008, a las 5:43, Marc James Small escribi?:

> At 07:55 PM 12/16/2008, Lluis Ripoll wrote:
> >I've got a new camera too, a Pentacon with a Zeiss Jena Biotar 58/2,
> >this is a nice lens, probably not si smooth as some Leica glasses but
> >it has a nice rendition and transition from focus to non focus areas,
> >as Dr.. Marc J. Small says "he never founded a bad Zeiss lens", I was
> >quite influenced to try this once I've read his book, it is a cheap
> >and amazing camera.
>
> Hmm.  Luis, could you be so kind as to send the model number of the 
> Pentacon camera and its serial number, together with that of the  lens? 
> Private e-mail, if you prefer.  I will share this with others  but only in 
> sanitized format with your name not included.  There is  a very active 
> Zeiss Ikon Collectors' Group and a Praktica Users'  Group where such 
> cameras and lenses are actively discussed.
>
> All of the Praktica breed of cameras are grand picture-takers albeit  some 
> are, I admit, a bit quirky.  And the 2/5.8cm Biotar, later the  2/58mm 
> Biotar, is a most fascinating lens, having been calculated by  the mavens 
> of Jena when they were first recognizing the impact that  coating would 
> have on optical performance.  It first was designed in  1939, 
> incidentally, as part of a project from the odd-ball Noble  owners of KW, 
> and this also resulted in the M42 mount.  The lens  survives in production 
> today in a Post-Soviet form used on Zenit  SLR's, made by the KMZ works 
> nearby to Moscow.  A continuous  production for a photographic lens for 
> almost seventy years mst set  some sort of a record.
>
> I would retract a flat statement that "I never met a Zeiss lens I  didn't 
> like", as I have met some which I found, well, not of the  first water. 
> Allow me to amend this statement to one which Max  Berek would applaud, 
> that I have never met a Zeiss lens not fully  capable of great use. 
> Almost all are cutting edge but, then, some  of them pushed too hard, 
> though they are still capable opticks.
>
> Marc
>
>
> msmall@aya.yale.edu
> Cha robh b?s fir gun ghr?s fir!
>
>
>
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