Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/12/14
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]The GIMP is a PS clone and for free and also works under linux. Cheers, Michiel fokkema Nathan Wajsman wrote: > Hi Jayanand, > > You are right, I forgot the software. However, you do not need > Photoshop--alternatives do exist. Indeed, the best alternative I can > think of is from Adobe itself, namely Lightroom, which is a fraction of > the cost of PS. That is all I use now. I have PS CS3 because I could get > it cheaply with the educational discount (I had my son buy it) but I > probably have not opened an image with it for several months. > > Certainly no photographer needs the complete Creative Suite unless s/he > is also a graphics designer or something like that, but then it is a > different ball game altogether. > > > Cheers, > Nathan > > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > http://www.nathanfoto.com > > Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog > > > > On Dec 14, 2008, at 4:02 AM, Jayanand Govindaraj wrote: > >> Nathan, >> You left out a very big and recurring expense - software. Adobe's >> programs >> dont come cheap - they are a monopoly and charge as such. I just found >> out >> that to upgrade from the CS3 suite to the CS4 suite is only US$770 - the >> cost of a very good digital SLR. >> Cheers >> Jayanand >> >> On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 12:22 AM, Nathan Wajsman >> <photo@frozenlight.eu>wrote: >> >>> I am an amateur. I bought my E3 about 11 months ago, and in those 11 >>> months >>> I have shot the equivalent of about 20 rolls of film per month with >>> it. Each >>> roll would have cost an average of 12 EUR to buy and process, so the >>> savings >>> is 240 EUR per month or 2880 EUR per year--far more than I paid for >>> the E3. >>> >>> The computer I have is an iMac which I bought earlier this year. But I >>> would have bought this computer even if I were not taking pictures. I >>> use it >>> to surf, to e-mail, to work with Excel, Word, Powerpoint etc. So its >>> cost >>> was not incurred as a consequence of photography and so should not be >>> counted. The only computer expense that is incremental are a couple of >>> external hard drives, since photographs do indeed require lots of >>> storage. >>> But even then, and despite the fact that I have not earned one cent >>> with my >>> photos, I am still ahead of film, financially speaking. >>> >>> The M8 I just got will take a bit longer to pay for itself in film >>> savings, >>> but it will definitely have done so by the time the 2-year warranty >>> is up. >>> And my enjoyment of it is priceless. >>> >>> Nathan >>> >>> Nathan Wajsman >>> Alicante, Spain >>> http://www.frozenlight.eu >>> http://www.greatpix.eu >>> http://www.nathanfoto.com >>> >>> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 >>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog >>> >>> >>> >>> On Dec 13, 2008, at 4:13 PM, Harrison McClary wrote: >>> >>> These arguments I always find a little misleading. They leave out the >>>> fact you should buy external drives for back up, and those in >>>> redundancy. >>>> You need a good fast computer or editing your photos will be >>>> painful. You >>>> need software to edit those photos. There is far more cost to >>>> digital than >>>> just the camera and all of that HAS to be considered also, IMHO. >>>> >>>> Alan Magayne-Roshak wrote: >>>> >>>>> "Alastair Firkin" <afirkin@afirkin.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Of course if you get 500000 shots from your M8 it will have paid for >>>>>> itself even if you are not a pro. Its got a guarantee so shoot for >>>>>> a year >>>>>>> and you will have saved quite a bit anyway. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ====================================================================================================== >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I don't follow. If (an amateur) doesn't make money using an M8, >>>>> how can >>>>> it be said to have paid for itself? The money hasn't come back; >>>>> maybe less >>>>> will be spent in support than with film, but that doesn't seem to >>>>> be the >>>>> same thing as recovering the initial expense. >>>>> >>>>> Alan >>>>> >>>>> Alan Magayne-Roshak, Senior Photographer >>>>> UPAA POY 1978 >>>>> University Information Technology Services >>>>> University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee >>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Alan+Magayne-Roshak/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Harrison McClary >>>> Harrison McClary Photography >>>> harrison@mcclary.net >>>> http://www.mcclary.net >>>> ImageStockSouth - Stock Photography >>>> http://www.imagestocksouth.com >>>> Tobacco Road: Personal Blog: >>>> http://www.mcclary.net/blog >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1848 - Release Date: > 12/14/2008 12:28 PM >