Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/12/07

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Subject: [Leica] Bad news at Leica - FF or crop survey
From: grduprey at mchsi.com (grduprey@mchsi.com)
Date: Sun Dec 7 14:55:59 2008

Well, I am also a M8 shooter.

However, I now have a DMR paired with my R8 so I am a 1.3 Cropped DSLR user 
also.

Gene

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Mark Rabiner <mark@rabinergroup.com>
>
> This is a Leica list. Some think "the" Leica list.
> On this list how many of use are shooting with DSLR's?
> Most of us. The majority of us by far though quite a few of us of course 
> are
> getting good use out of our M8's.
> 
> Of the vast majority of us who are getting most of our shots with DSLR's 
> how
> many of use are FF's and how many of us are croppers?
> 
> I think must of us on this list are FFers.
> I'd love a survey.
> or if many of us "weighed in".
> 
> I unfortunately and not for long am shooting at 1.5 crop  as I have been 
> for
> years first with a Nikon D100 when it first hit now D200 and D40x -
> But not for long.
> I got my eye on January 17th for my upgrade date.
> I like the idea of a 50mm being my "normal" focal length again.
> 
> 
> 
> mark@rabinergroup.com
> Mark William Rabiner
> 
> 
> 
> > From: Mark Rabiner <mark@rabinergroup.com>
> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> > Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 21:18:35 -0500
> > To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> > Conversation: [Leica] Bad news at Leica
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Bad news at Leica
> > 
> > Right now APS-2 and similar 1.5 or close to it crop systems are starting 
> > to
> > be be referred to as "small sensor cameras". This will be the preferred
> > terminology in a week or so.
> > 
> > In six months you will be hard pressed do find ANYONE
> > Doing anything resembling serious work with "small sensor cameras".
> > 
> > LEICA and SERIOUS WORK is/are synonymous or should be.
> > 
> > 
> > There will be a GAP where there shouldn't be.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > mark@rabinergroup.com
> > Mark William Rabiner
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> From: Bob W <leica@web-options.com>
> >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> >> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 01:35:45 -0000
> >> To: 'Leica Users Group' <lug@leica-users.org>
> >> Subject: RE: [Leica] Bad news at Leica
> >> 
> >>> 
> >>> How can we convince them that the M system is ok without AF?
> >>> 
> >>> What the M system needs is FF not AF.
> >>> 
> >>> Give me FF or give me Death!
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> I don't think AF, FF or Death! are particularly desirable. What I would
> >> prefer is a sensor without the problems,  and a return to the size of 
> >> the
> >> early M models (M3 etc). So called FF is largely irrelevant given the
> >> resolution of the current sensor, and the availability of reasonably 
> >> wide
> >> lenses.
> >> 
> >> Bob
> >> 
> >> 
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