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Subject: [Leica] IMG: From the Cigar Box, WWII Bombers Seen in 1995
From: walt at waltjohnson.com (Walt Johnson)
Date: Thu Oct 18 10:20:20 2007
References: <009701c81133$d5142290$6101a8c0@jimnichols> <47174922.7070405@gmx.de> <47174FFF.50805@waltjohnson.com> <4E7F9E2C-FFDF-420F-AF4F-48859FF7CCD6@charter.net>

There is no doubt it helps to be on the right side. The English were 
very familiar with bombers, although not B-24s. One thing I've always 
found upsetting concerns Hiroshima. It was of little or no military 
value and served as a haven for children, much like Belgrade. A solution 
to these problems might be solvable. When the next election comes around 
vote for */NOBODY.

/*Walt

slobodan dimitrov wrote:
> Funny thing about memories.
> My mother's is quite different about those flights.
> As a little girl she was sent to Belgrade during the war. It was an 
> open city, with a marginal German occupation garrison. Apparently 
> children were sent there from neighboring cities, and the surrounding 
> country side, for safety during the war.
> Apparently in the autumn of 1944, on the flights back from Ploesti, 
> the American air force would drop bombs on the city of Belgrade. Since 
> the American air force did everything by the clock, the city was 
> bombed on a regular basis at the same time of the day. My mother said, 
> before the arrival of the bombers, they would be taken across the 
> river, and watch from a distance the bombing of the city. After the 
> Americans had left, they would be taken back to the city. All with the 
> hope that the homes of the families that they were staying with 
> weren't destroyed in the bombing.
>
> s.d.
>
>
> On Oct 18, 2007, at 5:22 AM, Walt Johnson wrote:
>
>> Jim
>>
>> Somewhere around here I've an image of my dad's B-24. The plane was 
>> shot down over Hungary while returning from the fun and games at 
>> Ploesti .He and his crew spent the rest of the was as guest of the 
>> Germans.
>>
>> Walt
>>
>> Douglas Sharp wrote:
>>> Jim,
>>> I always did like the Liberator (Mitchell on steroids) - one of my 
>>> favourite Airfix kits when I was quite a bit younger - what the 
>>> Flying Fortress was to the Lancaster  was the Liberator to the 
>>> Halifax. You can still see a lot of its flying boat origins too.
>>> Cheers
>>> Douglas
>>> BTW, if you're working in Windows, try the trial version of DCE 
>>> Tools from Mediachance - it sometimes works wonders on older shots. 
>>> Try DCEnhance or ColorCastCorrection they've often done a lot (and 
>>> saved a lot of time) correcting some of my old slide scans and even 
>>> newer stuff.
>>>
>>> Jim Nichols wrote:
>>>> While working with negatives from 1995, I discovered some photos of 
>>>> visiting WWII bombers that were in town in the Fall of 1995.  They 
>>>> were a B-17, probably a G or H model, and a B-24.  These airplanes 
>>>> had several points of interest for me.
>>>>
>>>> As shown in take-off, the thick wing airfoil of the B-17 allows a 
>>>> fairly steep climb angle, especially when compared to the B-24 
>>>> which made use of a NACA laminar-flow airfoil designed to achieve 
>>>> higher speeds.  Even with partial flaps on take-off, the B-24 
>>>> climbs at a more conservative angle.
>>>>
>>>> The turrets on the B-24 are impressive. The nose turret lets the 
>>>> gunner feel that he is a part of the crew, whereas the retractable 
>>>> belly turret leaves the gunner on his own for much of the mission.  
>>>> I worked for many years with an engineer who, as a very young 
>>>> airman, flew missions over Europe in the B-24 belly turret.
>>>>
>>>> Taken twelve years ago, the quality of the in-flight images leave a 
>>>> lot to be desired, especially when compared to the images that 
>>>> Douglas recently posted from England.  However, these old birds are 
>>>> disappearing, so I post them in remembrance of what they 
>>>> represented during WWII.
>>>>
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Cigar+Box/B-17+Seen+in+1995.jpg.html
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Cigar+Box/B-24+Seen+in+1995.jpg.html
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Cigar+Box/B-24+Nose+Turret+1995.jpg.html
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Cigar+Box/B-24+Belly+Turret+1995.jpg.html
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Comments and critiques are welcomed and appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Jim Nichols
>>>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>>>>
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Replies: Reply from s.dimitrov at charter.net (slobodan dimitrov) ([Leica] IMG: From the Cigar Box, WWII Bombers Seen in 1995)
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