Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/09/24

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Subject: [Leica] Hove
From: kididdoc at cox.net (Steve Barbour)
Date: Mon Sep 24 13:48:35 2007
References: <002101c7fe52$ba3b99b0$6401a8c0@asus930> <C31CB007.6C0F7%mark@rabinergroup.com> <002601c7fe63$1edb3b90$6401a8c0@asus930> <200709240538.l8O5ccFd058002@server1.waverley.reid.org> <AD282405-F242-4C4D-96E1-577F765BEFF7@cox.net> <9b678e0709241232i7721b3f2m1832a36cc8fc03a3@mail.gmail.com> <6b9bd80a0709241248q29de13eavdf6e08de66735945@mail.gmail.com> <46F82029.504@summaventures.com>

On Sep 24, 2007, at 1:38 PM, Peter Dzwig wrote:

> Marc, Gerry,
>
> I have just checked with "my wife the lawyer" who points out that  
> if a bill,
> whether for royalties or anything else remains unpaid then the  
> person who is
> owed becomes a creditor like any other, although there may be an  
> order in which
> you sit in the list of creditors, eg you may rank as a "preferred"  
> creditor
> depending. She says that you should get in touch with the receivers  
> immediately
> and inform them of your claim. Who the receivers are is a matter of  
> public
> record and it should be fairly straightforward to find out who they  
> are and get
> in contact with them.

ohhh...that may be helpful, Steve




>
> Peter Dzwig
>
> Gerry Walden wrote:
>> I thought under English law that if the bill had not been paid the
>> goods remain the property of the vendor in cases of bankruptcy, but I
>> am no expert. However I have a brother-in-law who is and if I can  
>> help
>> let me know off-list and I will do what I can to pick his brains.
>>
>> Gerry
>>
>> On 24/09/2007, Don Dory <don.dory@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Steve,
>>> Hove is an English company and I don't believe that Marc is licensed
>>> to practice law in England.  Additionally, the company in  
>>> question has
>>> gone througth bankruptcy so owns the books without having to
>>> compensate the creative talent.  Different countries, different  
>>> legal
>>> arrangements.
>>>
>>> On 9/24/07, Steve Barbour <kididdoc@cox.net> wrote:
>>>> On Sep 23, 2007, at 10:36 PM, Marc James Small wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> At 12:26 AM 9/24/2007, G Hopkinson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> For example the 50 1.4
>>>>>> asph. I hope that some agency does pick up the Hove titles as
>>>>>> there is a wealth of Leica content in them  >
>>>>> There are several on the LUG who were royally cheated by Hove.  I
>>>>> hope that some agency drives the folks who continue producing my
>>>>> works without paying me to actually pay me what I am owed, as  
>>>>> small
>>>>> as it is.
>>>> hi Marc, I thought you were a lawyer...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> why are you bringing it here?
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Pardon me.  I was cheated out of around $US 3,009 or more:  I
>>>>> probably will never know the entire amount as British Bankruptcy
>>>>> Law prevents me from learning the sales.  And they GO ON  
>>>>> selling my
>>>>> book without trying to account for it to me or to my co-author?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hove and its successor are Evil, Evil, Evil.  An offer of five
>>>>> cents on the dollar would have been interesting.  Instead, they
>>>>> filed bankruptcy and have gone on selling books without any regard
>>>>> for royalties!
>>>>>
>>>>> These people are thieves and those with a regard for decency ought
>>>>> to cut them, dead.
>>>>>
>>>>> Marc
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> msmall@aya.yale.edu
>>>>> Cha robh b?s fir gun ghr?s fir!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>
>>> --
>>> Don
>>> don.dory@gmail.com
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>
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