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Subject: [Leica] selling a Leica DMR.. ?
From: Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com (Frank Dernie)
Date: Wed May 16 09:07:09 2007
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Thanks for that Harrison, I use Canon for historical reasons - I own  
EOS lenses. I have been impressed by the quality of the sensor right  
from the EOS D30 (which I used to get more in focus bird shots with  
than the EOS 1DS using the same lens BTW).
With regard to focus speed I had heard reports that Canon autofocus  
was faster than Nikon but whilst I subscribed to Chasseur d'Images,  
the best photography magazine I have read, their tests always showed  
the Nikon to be slightly faster and more accurate than the equivalent  
Canon model. They printed the results. I have never seen this comment  
in an English language magazine but I have also never seen a credible  
test of autofocus and tracking speed in an English language magazine  
either.
I mainly use an M8 now anyway - onto topic.
Frank

On 16 May, 2007, at 13:35, Harrison McClary wrote:

> Frank,
>
> I have never tried to shoot birds so I am not a good one to talk on  
> this with any authority.  I have always heard that the birders tend  
> to shoot MF mostly.  On something small like that I really am not  
> surprised the AF did not work that well.
> When I am using AF for sports or things that move rapidly I always  
> use AI servo.  On stationary subjects it goes back to one shot.
>
> Focus point selection, the best one is the center point.  I never  
> use the one where the camera picks the point, invariably it will  
> choose the wrong spot right at peak action.
> If I had not gotten old and my eyes bad I'd still MF, when I used  
> to shoot professional sports I never used AF and I was pretty good,  
> unfortunately my eyes are not what they were when I was 25 and I  
> have a very hard time focusing anything other than an M these  
> days.  Actually I was poked in the eye by a big stick one day  
> working in the yard and it knocked a big floater loose and when it  
> floats in front of my eye everything gets very blurry.  My eye  
> doctor said over time it will go away, but for now it is very  
> annoying!
>
> As far as the D200 v Canon.  I wish I could get a D200 body with my  
> Canon sensor/processing and Canon AF.  The Canon AF is faster than  
> the Nikon I have used and the Canon files are far better, IMHO than  
> the Nikon are.  The D200 interface and focusing screen is better.   
> In the end it is about images and I use Canon, also the 5D being  
> 35mm in format is a big plus to me.  I "think" in 35mm focal  
> lengths and once again I can look at something know how I want it  
> to look and pick the right lens.  This is a big issue for me, may  
> not be for some.
>
>
> Frank Dernie wrote:
>> How do you set the autofocus on your 1 series? I was out shooting  
>> Red Kites with mine yesterday in the hills, I tried both one shot  
>> and AI servo, all (auto select by camera) autofocus spots and  
>> center lock. About 10% success focusing on the subject, the auto  
>> was particularly shite when the hills were in the background,  
>> focused on countryside not bird, whereas previously I have found  
>> the autofocus to always focus on the nearest object in the  
>> autofocus area, as Canon specify it should I believe, even when  
>> this is not the main subject. I was particularly annoyed because  
>> this "feature" has autofocused on many an undesired but close item  
>> in the field but failed to do so when the closer item actually was  
>> the desired subject.
>> My hit rate went up when I went to manual focus.
>> Any help on this would be most appreciated, My EOS 1Ds -can-  
>> produce superb results but IME it is in spite of the user  
>> interface, not because of it. The Nikon D200 I have tried is about  
>> 10 million times better as an ergonomic useable tool IMO.
>> Frank
>
>
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