Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/02/11

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Subject: [Leica] Re: Kodak BW400CN film
From: faneuil at gmail.com (Eric Korenman)
Date: Sun Feb 11 14:19:41 2007
References: <200702112006.l1BK6PI4041522@server1.waverley.reid.org> <DFE9970A-70BD-4328-9E06-A2431AD72803@optonline.net> <45A1705B-08A1-472E-8797-5BC5A0EFA844@pandora.be>

Chromogenic BW film beats the pants off color neg film converted to BW.
Converted color neg film to BW always creates ugly splotchy grain pattern.

TCN and BW400CN is gORgeous !
IIlford's XP2 was grainier and contrasty but lovely in its own way.

Sad to see 220 BW400CN go away.

Eric

On 2/11/07, Philippe Orlent <philippe.orlent@pandora.be> wrote:
> 1. Really: do not ever just grayscale a color image to get B&W: it's
> very ugly. Much better stuff around to get what you look for in
> inexpensive plug-ins and so (BW Pro, Alien Skin, the B.D. Colen
> method, ...)
> 2. If you talk analog prints, this might be the case. If you talk
> digital prints: no difficulties at all.
>
> Philippe
>
>
> Op 11-feb-07, om 22:58 heeft Lawrence Zeitlin het volgende geschreven:
>
> > Question:
> >
> > I have never used a BW chromogenic film. I've done all my B&W
> > photography with silver based films developed in the traditional
> > way. But in the last couple of years I've abandoned my wet darkroom
> > because of skin allergies to chemicals. I have been scanning all my
> > color negatives to create a data base, using a Minolta Dimage 5400
> > scanner. Apart from taking a long time, the ICE facility is
> > marvelous for eliminating all those nuisance dust spots.
> >
> > My specific question is - if I standardize on a readily available
> > color negative film, say ASA 100 or 200 Kodak Royal Gold, scan the
> > negative, then turn it into a grayscale in PS, will the results be
> > comparable to a B&W chromogenic film. The Kodak web site seems to
> > indicate that if you want prints, then silver based B&W films are
> > preferable. Their reasoning seems to be that the dyes and base
> > color of BW400CN makes printing difficult. But if I want to use an
> > ink jet or laser printer, does it matter?
> >
> > Larry Z
> >
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In reply to: Message from lrzeitlin at optonline.net (Lawrence Zeitlin) ([Leica] Re: Kodak BW400CN film)
Message from philippe.orlent at pandora.be (Philippe Orlent) ([Leica] Re: Kodak BW400CN film)