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Subject: [Leica] B.D., How Harsh You Are
From: scott at adrenaline.com (Scott McLoughlin)
Date: Fri Aug 12 15:14:10 2005
References: <DB8AA994F7DCAA478C487B62AA1C816A07E9436F@gsnmp02es.firmwide.corp.gs.com>

For OOB good B&W, try the new 2400/4800 series. new LLK ink and
an "Advanced B&W" mode built into the print driver. Most folks
seem to like it.  Also a new emulsion holding the pigments that is
supposed to produce much better glossy prints akin to what the
1800 currently produces.

As for the 1280, running pigment inks through a printer built for
dye inks is going to have its attendent clogging problems.

Epson folks seem to buy for the longevity of the pigment inks.
While not all are futzers, some "vanguard" of Epson users seem to
appreciate the vast tools, inks, RIPs, other software, etc. and the
ability to get quality prints on a vast, vast array of "fine art" papers.

Of course, I imagine there's a giant "silent majority" of Epson users
easily and happily cranking out prints on EEM, VFA, Premium
SemiGloss and the like.

Scott

Francis, Michael wrote:

>Seconded (I have the HP 7960 it is wonderful) - so are the new Canons (i9900
>for example) - it seems that the only company not capable of producing
>consistent colour without calibration, RIPs etc is Epson... Perhaps I'm not
>picky enough ... I have a 1280 that I converted to B&W, but I get so many
>clogged heads I pretty much gave up. Both the Canon and the HP worked out of
>the box and continue to work week after week. 
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: lug-bounces+michael.francis=gs.com@leica-users.org
>[mailto:lug-bounces+michael.francis=gs.com@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of B.
>D. Colen
>Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 10:58 AM
>To: Leica Users Group
>Subject: Re: [Leica] B.D., How Harsh You Are
>
>Rip schnip - the HP printers produce perfect and white without any rips or
>weird adjustments necessary. Just prep the image, push the button, and
>print. And now they, too, have a 13x19 printer for $500.
>
>On 8/11/05 9:05 PM, "Timothy Atherton" <tim@kairosphoto.com> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>You can get the QuadtoneRIP for the R800 (and many other epson 
>>printers) which will do a really good job of B&W printing
>>
>>again a bit of a learning curve (have to convert your greyscale images 
>>to a special profile for best results),  and I find it generally works 
>>best on matte/rag type papers (I think for the R800 it just has EEM 
>>profiles - which can be tweaked to work with most cotton rag type 
>>papers - and you can always try it with glossy...)
>>
>>http://harrington.com/QuadToneRIP.html
>>
>>Best of all it's free until you decide you like it enough to make a 
>>donation
>>
>>tim a
>>
>>    
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: lug-bounces+tim=kairosphoto.com@leica-users.org
>>>[mailto:lug-bounces+tim=kairosphoto.com@leica-users.org]On Behalf Of 
>>>Kenneth Frazier
>>>Sent: August 11, 2005 6:58 PM
>>>To: Leica Users Group
>>>Subject: Re: [Leica] B.D., How Harsh You Are
>>>
>>>
>>>feli2@earthlink.net (feli) wrote:
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>My R800, which only has two shades of black, puts out some darn 
>>>>impressive RC quality prints
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>Which paper are you using for your b&w prints?  So far, my R800 is a 
>>>super performer, and I'm trying different papers until I find the one 
>>>I like best.
>>>
>>>Ken
>>>--
>>>The Rev. Kenneth Frazier
>>>Norfield Congregational Church
>>>CT Conference, United Church of Christ Weston, CT  USA Leica photos 
>>>at: http://tinyurl.com/6sc2r
>>>
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