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Subject: [Leica] Paypal and Postal Insurance Question
From: photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman)
Date: Sun Jan 11 22:43:45 2009
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I really doubt that Paypal would come down on the sender's side. Much  
more likely is that they would send you to the carrier you used and  
tell you that you have to file a claim with them. I find it hard to  
imagine that a company like Paypal would be prepared to assume  
liability for a mishap in another company's system (USPS, UPS, Fedex  
etc.).

Nathan

Nathan Wajsman
Alicante, Spain
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On Jan 12, 2009, at 7:31 AM, A. Lal wrote:

> I expect they should, but I do not want to be the test case!!
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Meier" <robertmeier@usjet.net 
> >
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
> Sent: Sunday, 11 January, 2009 11:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Paypal and Postal Insurance Question
>
>
>> I 'm pretty sure that with that proof, Paypal would come down on  
>> your  side.
>> On Jan 11, 2009, at 12:57 AM, A. Lal wrote:
>>> Nathan,
>>>
>>> I am certain paypal would not care if the goods were lost or   
>>> damaged by the shipper.
>>>
>>> The question I have is this: if the goods are lost, will paypal,   
>>> upon receiving the buyers complaint, charge back from my account   
>>> the amount that was paid, even though I have proof that the goods   
>>> were actually mailed and the buyer did not want insurance?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Akhil
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nathan Wajsman"  
>>> <photo@frozenlight.eu 
>>> >
>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, 11 January, 2009 1:43 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Paypal and Postal Insurance Question
>>>
>>>
>>>> Akhil,
>>>>
>>>> I think it should raise a red flag. You should not do business   
>>>> with someone if you have a strange feeling about it.
>>>>
>>>> And BTW, I am sure that Paypal would assume no responsibility  
>>>> for   goods lost or damaged by a third party such as the Post  
>>>> Office.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Nathan
>>>>
>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>> Alicante, Spain
>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>>>>
>>>> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0
>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>>>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 11, 2009, at 7:05 AM, A. Lal wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> What is paypal's policy on refunds for shipments damaged or  
>>>>> lost  in transit for which proof of mailing exists?
>>>>>
>>>>> Just to clarify, a prospective buyer of one of the lenses I    
>>>>> advertised, not a lugger, thought that 16 odd dollars was too   
>>>>> much  money to ship a lens across the country, even if it   
>>>>> included  signature confirmation, insurance, and first-class   
>>>>> postage with  plenty of padding in the box. He wants to save a   
>>>>> few pennies (no, I  don't know why)  and wants the lens shipped   
>>>>> without insurance. I  have no problem with this as long as  
>>>>> paypal  does not debit my  account for a lens that goes missing  
>>>>> through  no fault of my own.
>>>>>
>>>>> If this were an old fashioned transaction via cheque  or money   
>>>>> order  I would go ahead, but with paypal involved, I believe it   
>>>>> is best to  be cautious and seek advice from this group.
>>>>>
>>>>> Comments are appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW, in many years of buying and selling on the web, this is  
>>>>> the   first time a buyer has actually requested a no-insurance  
>>>>> shipment  in  order to save a few dollars. Perhaps this should  
>>>>> raise a red  flag?  Of course, I can just cover the cost of  
>>>>> insurance myself,  but the  whole thing sounded a bit strange.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Akhil
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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