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Subject: [Leica] Paypal and Postal Insurance Question
From: alal at duke.poly.edu (A. Lal)
Date: Sun Jan 11 22:31:07 2009
References: <63AD99922EEB45AF8D293816D1E89AE5@xyw><4AEC2789-8F6F-46C5-9FF1-533FD50767AC@frozenlight.eu><C7114AC6FD2D43D28952E735A54F75B6@xyw> <7B3F0080-D4BB-40A6-8256-17E165EA6537@usjet.net>

I expect they should, but I do not want to be the test case!!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Meier" <robertmeier@usjet.net>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Sunday, 11 January, 2009 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Paypal and Postal Insurance Question


>I 'm pretty sure that with that proof, Paypal would come down on your  
> side.
> 
> 
> On Jan 11, 2009, at 12:57 AM, A. Lal wrote:
> 
>> Nathan,
>>
>> I am certain paypal would not care if the goods were lost or  
>> damaged by the shipper.
>>
>> The question I have is this: if the goods are lost, will paypal,  
>> upon receiving the buyers complaint, charge back from my account  
>> the amount that was paid, even though I have proof that the goods  
>> were actually mailed and the buyer did not want insurance?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Akhil
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nathan Wajsman"  
>> <photo@frozenlight.eu>
>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, 11 January, 2009 1:43 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Paypal and Postal Insurance Question
>>
>>
>>> Akhil,
>>>
>>> I think it should raise a red flag. You should not do business  
>>> with someone if you have a strange feeling about it.
>>>
>>> And BTW, I am sure that Paypal would assume no responsibility for   
>>> goods lost or damaged by a third party such as the Post Office.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Nathan
>>>
>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>> Alicante, Spain
>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>>>
>>> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0
>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 11, 2009, at 7:05 AM, A. Lal wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>
>>>> What is paypal's policy on refunds for shipments damaged or lost  
>>>> in transit for which proof of mailing exists?
>>>>
>>>> Just to clarify, a prospective buyer of one of the lenses I   
>>>> advertised, not a lugger, thought that 16 odd dollars was too  
>>>> much  money to ship a lens across the country, even if it  
>>>> included  signature confirmation, insurance, and first-class  
>>>> postage with  plenty of padding in the box. He wants to save a  
>>>> few pennies (no, I  don't know why)  and wants the lens shipped  
>>>> without insurance. I  have no problem with this as long as paypal  
>>>> does not debit my  account for a lens that goes missing through  
>>>> no fault of my own.
>>>>
>>>> If this were an old fashioned transaction via cheque  or money  
>>>> order  I would go ahead, but with paypal involved, I believe it  
>>>> is best to  be cautious and seek advice from this group.
>>>>
>>>> Comments are appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> BTW, in many years of buying and selling on the web, this is the   
>>>> first time a buyer has actually requested a no-insurance shipment  
>>>> in  order to save a few dollars. Perhaps this should raise a red  
>>>> flag?  Of course, I can just cover the cost of insurance myself,  
>>>> but the  whole thing sounded a bit strange.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Akhil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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