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Subject: [Leica] Paypal and Postal Insurance Question
From: robertmeier at usjet.net (Robert Meier)
Date: Sun Jan 11 08:16:39 2009
References: <63AD99922EEB45AF8D293816D1E89AE5@xyw> <4AEC2789-8F6F-46C5-9FF1-533FD50767AC@frozenlight.eu> <C7114AC6FD2D43D28952E735A54F75B6@xyw>

I 'm pretty sure that with that proof, Paypal would come down on your  
side.


On Jan 11, 2009, at 12:57 AM, A. Lal wrote:

> Nathan,
>
> I am certain paypal would not care if the goods were lost or  
> damaged by the shipper.
>
> The question I have is this: if the goods are lost, will paypal,  
> upon receiving the buyers complaint, charge back from my account  
> the amount that was paid, even though I have proof that the goods  
> were actually mailed and the buyer did not want insurance?
>
> Regards,
> Akhil
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nathan Wajsman"  
> <photo@frozenlight.eu>
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
> Sent: Sunday, 11 January, 2009 1:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Paypal and Postal Insurance Question
>
>
>> Akhil,
>>
>> I think it should raise a red flag. You should not do business  
>> with someone if you have a strange feeling about it.
>>
>> And BTW, I am sure that Paypal would assume no responsibility for   
>> goods lost or damaged by a third party such as the Post Office.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Nathan
>>
>> Nathan Wajsman
>> Alicante, Spain
>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>>
>> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0
>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 11, 2009, at 7:05 AM, A. Lal wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>
>>> What is paypal's policy on refunds for shipments damaged or lost  
>>> in transit for which proof of mailing exists?
>>>
>>> Just to clarify, a prospective buyer of one of the lenses I   
>>> advertised, not a lugger, thought that 16 odd dollars was too  
>>> much  money to ship a lens across the country, even if it  
>>> included  signature confirmation, insurance, and first-class  
>>> postage with  plenty of padding in the box. He wants to save a  
>>> few pennies (no, I  don't know why)  and wants the lens shipped  
>>> without insurance. I  have no problem with this as long as paypal  
>>> does not debit my  account for a lens that goes missing through  
>>> no fault of my own.
>>>
>>> If this were an old fashioned transaction via cheque  or money  
>>> order  I would go ahead, but with paypal involved, I believe it  
>>> is best to  be cautious and seek advice from this group.
>>>
>>> Comments are appreciated.
>>>
>>> BTW, in many years of buying and selling on the web, this is the   
>>> first time a buyer has actually requested a no-insurance shipment  
>>> in  order to save a few dollars. Perhaps this should raise a red  
>>> flag?  Of course, I can just cover the cost of insurance myself,  
>>> but the  whole thing sounded a bit strange.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Akhil
>>>
>>>
>>>
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