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Subject: [Leica] I came over to the dark side
From: photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2025 19:29:17 +0100
References: <PH7PR84MB31840794CD12F408E139D18CB8CE2@PH7PR84MB3184.NAMPRD84.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM> <CA+3n+_mW-McEHdGeOwxg_erNpzkokM5beFa3q7XAvORpKnVzrw@mail.gmail.com> <CA+yJO1DvzOu_tvZ6xtOGnxySmcvYOfctxEDVS2ch9i_a1yffQQ@mail.gmail.com>

I was going to comment how the photo of the dairy farmer in Bolivia you just 
posted on FB looks so amazingly smooth for TMZ. Now I know the reason :-)

Cheers,
Nathan

Nathan Wajsman
photo at frozenlight.eu

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> On 3 Mar 2025, at 18:44, Tina Manley via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> 
> wrote:
> 
> I find the Topaz Photo Ai to be amazing.  Now I can go back to photos I
> took in 1993 using TMZ - 1600 ISO - film.  I can apply the Topaz Photo Ai
> and tell it to resolve the faces.  It's so good, I have to fade it quite a
> bit so it still looks like film!  The peoples' faces really pop.  I don't
> usually add or remove anything and their faces are not changed, just
> resolved incredibly well!!  The Topaz Sharpen is also incredibly good
> (faded) but I don't often use Topaz DeNoise because it's blotchy.  I prefer
> to add noise instead.  ;-)
> 
> Tina
> 
> On Sun, Mar 2, 2025 at 7:21?PM Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> 
> wrote:
> 
>> I have subscribed to the Adobe subscription for a long time.  The tools 
>> are
>> incredible but like anything judgement is required.  If it is journalism
>> like Chris Crawford is doing then I restrict myself to exposure, dodge,
>> burn and spotting.
>> 
>> On the other hand if it is impresdionistic the all the tools are on the
>> table.
>> 
>> To Brians question the late addition of upsampling mostly works but can
>> occasionally fail miserably.  Just keep your originals sacrosanct.
>> 
>> On Sun, Mar 2, 2025, 3:55 PM Aram Langhans via LUG <lug at 
>> leica-users.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Yep.  I actually purchased the Adobe Photographer subscription a while
>>> back before the prices went up.  I have not done much with it yet
>>> preferring to stick with Lightroom 6 and CS6, but I  have gotten curious
>>> about the AI abilities in removing objects.  I have to say I am mostly
>>> impressed.  Here are a few examples from a recent trip to Leavenworth.
>>> They are doing a lot of construction along the main drag so there was
>>> lots of equipment interfering with the usual nice views, so I took some
>>> shots anyway specifically to try the AI removal tools in LR and
>>> Photoshop. Here are the results.
>>> 
>>> Original Image with some offending outhouses: Leavenworth WA-1004237
>>> <
>>> 
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Aram/misc/m/Leavenworth+WA-1004237.jpg.html
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> A little AI removal: Leavenworth WA-1004237-Edit
>>> <
>>> 
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Aram/misc/m/Leavenworth+WA-1004237-Edit.jpg.html
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Another original image with trucks and structures: Leavenworth
>>> WA-1004234
>>> <
>>> 
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Aram/misc/m/Leavenworth+WA-1004234.jpg.html
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> And AI removal: Leavenworth WA-1004234-Edit
>>> <
>>> 
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Aram/misc/m/Leavenworth+WA-1004234-Edit.jpg.html
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If you were to blow them up and look carefully I am sure you could see
>>> they were worked on.  For one thing, the AI synthisized image is much
>>> lower resolution than the Q3 original image.  I think it is 1 or 2 K
>>> resolution.  And of course there would be a few artifacts that if I was
>>> really industrious I would have to work on.  But by and large they took
>>> a totally unacceptable image and made it into a pretty good mediocre
>>> image in my unskilled hands.  Maybe you are an old hand at this so these
>>> seem pretty amateurish to you.  Maybe I will work on it or maybe I will
>>> just take more time to line shots up that do not require the use of this
>>> tool.  Be a real photographer rather than a technician.
>>> 
>>> Comments welcome.
>>> 
>>> Aram
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Aram Langhans
>>> (Semi) Retired Science Teacher
>>> & Unemployed photographer
>>> 
>>> ?The Human Genome Project has proved Darwin more right than Darwin
>> himself
>>> would ever have dared dream.?   James D. Watson
>>> 
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Replies: Reply from tmanley at gmail.com (Tina Manley) ([Leica] I came over to the dark side)
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