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Subject: [Leica] Leica Elmar 90mm f4 LTM
From: lluisripollphotography at gmail.com (Lluis Ripoll)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 20:04:29 +0200
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Thank you Jim!

Yes, the world of the mirrorless cameras and adapters offers a large variety 
to play with a lot of old lenses, as you know I don?t have a mirrorless 
camera and on the other hand I do a very few use of the 90. If I had enough 
time and money I think I will enjoy to use a mirrorless camera and a lot of 
old lenses?. but these are on my case expensive games because as you know 
it?s not my main photographic target, this would be just a complement for 
playing with wonderful toys!.
Lluis


> El 18 jul 2021, a les 18:28, Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net> va 
> escriure:
> 
> Lluis, in these days of adapters and mirrorless cameras, the Elmarit-R 90 
> f/2.8 with retractable hood is a pleasure to use, though not suitable for 
> rangefinder cameras. Mine stays on my Fuji X-T2.
> 
> On 7/18/21 7:32 AM, Lluis Ripoll via LUG wrote:
>> Fortunately in my Leica experience I had the chance to use several 90 
>> lenses
>> 
>> Elmar 9 cm f4 on my Leca IIIF times, it was a very nice compact lenses, 
>> smooth tones and resolution
>> Elmarit 90 f 2.8 M, it was too soft contrasted for me
>> Summicron 90 R, I loved this one, maybe my favorite 90
>> Tele-Elmarit 90 M F 2.8, a wonderful compact lens, useful!
>> Summicron 90 AA, excellent and somertimes too sharp
>> 
>> Lluis
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> El 18 jul 2021, a les 5:47, Jeffery Smith via LUG <lug at 
>>> leica-users.org> va escriure:
>>> 
>>> Ah, so it is younger than me, and in much better shape. Thanks very much 
>>> Jim. That is where I was hoping it would be. Non clinical, nice bokeh.
>>> 
>>> Jeffery
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 17, 2021, at 8:39 PM, Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Jeffery,
>>>> 
>>>> Lenses made in 1951 range from 840001 to 950000.
>>>> 
>>>> On 7/17/21 10:04 PM, Jeffery Smith via LUG wrote:
>>>>> I have about 7 LTM cameras, and like most of them. I'll check the 
>>>>> serial number next time I'm in the house (I'm stationed in Mom'a 
>>>>> garage). The lens I got is remarkably clean, no haze, no fungus, no 
>>>>> "cleaning marks that don't affect the performance". It is absolutely 
>>>>> single coated (if even that). It looks unused...the question is why 
>>>>> nobody used it. We'll see.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm pondering which film to use since I want to do at least E.I. 800 
>>>>> because the folks at the barbecue are in perpetual motion, and it will 
>>>>> be under an awning that blocks much of the sun.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Okay, my serial number is 874068. And it has an interesting feature 
>>>>> than was not intentional...the metal body cap also functions as a lens 
>>>>> cap. It screws into the body, but pushes onto the end of the lens.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for the information Frank. I hope this  is a keeper.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jeffery
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 17, 2021, at 7:49 PM, Frank Filippone via LUG <lug at 
>>>>>> leica-users.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have one that has a serial number below 100,000, which makes it 
>>>>>> about as old as a Leica lens can be.... ( before 1931.. 90 years old)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It is, when mounted with the appropriate adapter and used on an M9,  
>>>>>> almost as sharp in the center as a 90 Elmarit ( the thin, Modern M 
>>>>>> one).  It is quite soft as you head towards the corners.  The Elmarit 
>>>>>> is not.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I tested it against the later reincarnations, a silver 60's model, 
>>>>>> and did not find a significant difference.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It is NOT the clinical look of the 90AA nor the 90 Summarit.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am going to test the 90's I have to find their strengths and 
>>>>>> weaknesses.  I will add it to my list of lenses.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It will take a while to test, but I will state the results here....
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> BTW, I have a 90 ELmar-C which sold for about the same price as the 
>>>>>> LTM model. It is quite good, but if you are looking to get the 
>>>>>> "special" look, skip the C.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> LTM models and M models differ 10% in price..... and you do not need 
>>>>>> an adapter if you are using it on an M camera.  Why an LTM model?  
>>>>>> LTM camera?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you decide on any older Leica lens, check it for haze... a common 
>>>>>> remnant of outgassing of the lubricant originally used.  Common 
>>>>>> problem with lenses through the 70's.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Frank Filippone
>>>>>> BMWRed735i at Gmail.com
>>>>>> On 7/17/2021 12:37 PM, Jeffery Smith via LUG wrote:
>>>>>>> My Erwin Puts books are back home in Louisiana. Does anyone have 
>>>>>>> experience or insight into this particular lens? I would like the 
>>>>>>> vintage portrait look, and this model doesn't seem particularly 
>>>>>>> coveted, at least not if price is an indicator.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jeffery
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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>>>> -- 
>>>> Jim Nichols
>>>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>>>> 
>>>> 
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> -- 
> Jim Nichols
> Tullahoma, TN USA
> 
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