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Subject: [Leica] Suggestions for 35mm B/W neg scanner?
From: richard at imagecraft.com (Richard Man)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 11:45:12 -0700
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Hi Frank, actually, I had to get a Firewire adapter for my new Win10
machine, to work with the Flextight scanner. I bought a card with the "real
TI chips" and to my surprise, the whole setup works much better than the
old Win7 machine with whatever firewire chips it had. Previously, the
machine would not be recognized 30-40% of the time, and from googling, it
seems to be a common problem.

Now? Zero problem.

Firewire is an "ancient technology", but OTOH, it will continue to work for
many years to come, at least on the PC. Not familiar with the Mac (although
I know some people are using
firewire400->firewire800->ThunderBolt2->Thunderbolt3" chain of adapters....


On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 10:25 AM enitka via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> 
wrote:

> I use a LS4000 on a Mac current OS - you can get adapters that make it
> work.  It is hard to kill this machine.  I?ve had it at least 17 years now
> and it?s a real workhorse.  I use it with Vuescan
>
> Ernie Nitka
>
> > On Sep 14, 2020, at 10:25 AM, Frank Filippone via LUG <
> lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
> >
> > The LS4000 has a IEEE1394 (Firewire) interface.  I would not recommend
> it for the general audience.  It will be more difficult than the LS5000 to
> install,especially on a Windows machine.
> >
> > The SL5000 uses USB.
> >
> > On 9/13/2020 8:40 PM, Richard Man wrote:
> >> I have used a lot of scanners, and still have 3 (actually five, but
> who's
> >> counting). Anyway, it depends on your needs and budget, but the
> >> LS-5000/4000 would be a good general purpose. Using Vuescan will save
> you a
> >> lot of headaches
> >>
> >> On Sun, Sep 13, 2020 at 4:09 AM Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I stand corrected, then. Back when I shot film exclusively, I had a
> Nikon
> >>> LS-2000, but I don?t remember what software I used with it. I do
> remember
> >>> trying Vuescan already back then, and I have also tried it with a cheap
> >>> film scanner I bought a couple of years ago (Plustek, I think) that I
> ended
> >>> up getting rid of. I also tried it with my Epson, but found Epson Scan
> >>> better and easier. But sure, if the old Nikon scanners need it to work
> on
> >>> modern computers, then there is no other option.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Nathan
> >>>
> >>> Nathan Wajsman
> >>>
> >>> Alicante, Spain
> >>> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
> >>> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
> >>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws <
> >>> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog:
> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ <
> >>> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
> >>>
> >>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator <
> >>> http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
> >>>
> >>> YNWA
> >>>
> >>> "I?m not arguing, I?m just explaining why I?m right"
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On 13 Sep 2020, at 08:57, Christopher Crawford <
> >>> chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote:
> >>>> Nathan,
> >>>>
> >>>> Vuescan is pretty much a necessity for the Nikon scanners, so Tina was
> >>> right to recommend it for the LS-5000ED. Nikon's scanning software,
> Nikon
> >>> Scan, does not work on Intel Macs and only works on Windows 10 if you
> jump
> >>> through some hacking hoops (and I think this is true with windows7 and
> 8 as
> >>> well).
> >>>> Even when it was new, Nikon Scan sucked. It was slow and buggy and
> often
> >>> crashed. I bought my Nikon 8000ED scanner 19 years ago and bought
> Vuescan
> >>> shortly after because Nikon scan was so awful. Nikon Scan's interface
> was
> >>> nicer then Vuescan's, but the stability and speed of Vuescan made it
> worth
> >>> the inconvenience.
> >>>> With a newer computer, Vuescan is pretty much the only game in town.
> >>> Silverfast used to make a version for the Nikon scanners (and maybe
> still
> >>> offer it, I don't know), but it was incredibly overpriced ($700 for the
> >>> version needed for my scanner!) and from what I've heard it was buggy
> too.
> >>>> I haven't used the Epson scanner you have, but I recently bought an
> >>> Epson V600 for scanning prints. Epson's software works fine for it and
> is
> >>> easier to use then Vuescan.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Chris Crawford
> >>>> Fine Art Photography
> >>>> Fort Wayne, Indiana
> >>>> 260-437-8990
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My portfolio
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798
> >>>> Like My Work on Facebook
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ?On 9/13/20, 1:40 AM, "LUG on behalf of Nathan Wajsman"
> >>> <lug-bounces+chris=chriscrawfordphoto.com at leica-users.org on behalf 
> >>> of
> >>> photo at frozenlight.eu> wrote:
> >>>>    I second that recommendation. Unfortunately, it is hard to find and
> >>> expensive, so I use the cheaper option of an Epson V700 (which also
> lets me
> >>> scan MF film which I shoot from time to time). My only disagreement
> >>> concerns Vuescan. I have tried to like it over the years, but I find
> the
> >>> user interface so clunky that I have given up on it. I just use the
> Epson
> >>> Scan software that came with the scanner.
> >>>>    Cheers,
> >>>>    Nathan
> >>>>
> >>>>    Nathan Wajsman
> >>>>
> >>>>    Alicante, Spain
> >>>>    http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
> >>>>    http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
> >>>>    PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws <
> >>> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog:
> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ <
> >>> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
> >>>>    Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator <
> >>> http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
> >>>>    YNWA
> >>>>
> >>>>    "I?m not arguing, I?m just explaining why I?m right"
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 13 Sep 2020, at 00:42, Tina Manley via LUG <lug at 
> >>>>> leica-users.org>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>> Nikon LS5000 with Vuescan.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Tina
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 3:07 PM Stasys Petravicius via LUG <
> >>>>> lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>> Stasys Petravicius
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>> Leica Users Group.
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> information
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Tina Manley
> >>>>> www.tinamanley.com
> >>>>> http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley
> >>>>> <
> >>>
> http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html
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> >>
> > --
> >
> > *Frank Filippone*
> >
> > *BMWRed735i at Gmail.com*
> >
> >
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