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Subject: [Leica] A bias when collecting photographs
From: richard at imagecraft.com (Richard Man)
Date: Sun, 3 May 2020 14:44:56 -0700
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Hi Don, when I said copies, I meant "(silver gelatin) prints made by either
St. Ansel himself, or Alan Ross etc." I have seen many variations, from his
old style less contrasty prints to the more contrasty later prints.

On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 1:55 PM Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> 
wrote:

> Hi Richard,  I am not sure that you would call silver prints coming out of
> the Ansel Adams gallery copies.  Adams hired people to print his negatives
> to an exact written procedure and they were clearly marked as to who took
> the image(Adams) and who printed it.  Not as valuable as a print by the
> master but still a very faithful example of what Adams envisioned when he
> took and printed the image.  When I was in Yosemite many years ago now 8x10
> contact prints were pretty reasonable.
>
> On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 3:46 PM Richard Man <richard at richardman.photo>
> wrote:
>
> > Oh yes, I just finally bought a print of Moonrise. I have seen many
> silver
> > gelatin copies in galleries and museums, including 24x30 and larger. This
> > $30 poster is definitely more than good enough.
> >
> > On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 1:38 PM Richard Man <richard at imagecraft.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > For you personally, I don't see any problem with having a bias. It's
> just
> > > what you prefer. No one should dictate whether you should eat sushi or
> a
> > > hamburger right? ;-)
> > >
> > > Galleries that cater to "dead old photographers" still prefer silver
> > > gelatin prints. It has a certain cachet that might or might not be
> there.
> > >
> > > OTOH, I am now printing mostly on "fine arts" paper, mostly on kozo and
> > > washi, and have gone way past "silver gelatin".
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 8:59 AM Richard Clompus via LUG <
> > > lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I?ve purchased fine art photographs from galleries over the years from
> > >> photographers that have excited me.  Usually they are from
> photographers
> > >> that I read about during my college years.   I?d love to have a silver
> > >> halide print from Henri Cartier-Bresson or Eugene Smith but at $30,000
> > USD,
> > >> they are out of my league and only a dream.
> > >>
> > >> Even though there are really nice looking fine art b&w prints from ink
> > >> jet pigments, I somehow don?t give them as much respect as a silver
> > print
> > >> when purchasing as a fine art print for my walls.
> > >>
> > >> Does anyone else have this bias?
> > >>
> > >> Be well,
> > >> Richard
> > >>
> > >> Richard Clompus
> > >> California
> > >>
> > >>
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