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Subject: [Leica] How many people have/will buy M10/M10M?
From: richard at imagecraft.com (Richard Man)
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2019 22:12:07 -0800
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Yup, understand those arguments. Just speaking for myself, a 40 MP M10M
with my 35/50/90 Leica lens and the iPhone for color photos would be all I
need :-)

On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 9:59 PM Howard L Ritter Jr via LUG <
lug at leica-users.org> wrote:

> Richard?
>
> Another reason to upgrade to get increased MPx is not for super-high
> resolution in the full-frame image, but for the ability to crop
> significantly and still have a detailed image. Considering that a 12MPx
> file will produce a 13 x 19? print with >200 dpi, a 48MPx file from the
> 28mm Leica Q2 will produce a similar print from 1/4 of its sensor, a 50%
> crop, equivalent to a 56mm lens in front of a 12MPx sensor, about what we
> had with a 50mm ?cron on the M8. And an 8 x 12? print needs only 4 MPx,
> 1/12 of the Q2?s sensor area or a crop whose equivalent FOV is that of a
> nearly 100mm lens. When we get the 28mm Qx with a 100MPx sensor, it?ll be
> like having a 28-135 zoom. That?s when I?ll buy one.
>
> And lenses are capable of using this resolution. A few years ago I did an
> experiment with a variety of cameras from 12MPx P&S to 36MPx full-frame 35,
> each with a 24mm (actual) lens and found that as pixel size decreased,
> captured detail in the subject kept increasing at least until the pixel
> size was small enough that a FF sensor with that pixel size would have
> 100MPx, maybe more.
>
> ?howard
>
> > On Nov 4, 2019, at 12:11 AM, Richard Man <richard at imagecraft.com> 
> > wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Howard. I am considering selling a few cameras and upgrade to an
> > M10-P now. With my corroded M9, I can "upgrade" for $6000. I really love
> > the M9 B&W conversion, and the M10-P may be all the camera I want/need
> > until a few years after M10M comes out and comes down in price.
> >
> > I don't "need" super high res. My 4x5 and 8x10 can do those ;-)
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 8:36 PM Howard L Ritter Jr via LUG <
> > lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
> >
> >> +1
> >>
> >> I love my M240 and MM, whose 24 MPx sensors (like my dear departed
> >> NEX-7?s) give me stunning resolution ? see
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/hlritter/Iceland+for+Gallery/L1000678.jpg.html
> >> <
> >>
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/hlritter/Iceland+for+Gallery/L1000678.jpg.html
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/hlritter/Iceland+for+Gallery/L1000565.jpg.html
> >> <
> >>
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/hlritter/Iceland+for+Gallery/L1000565.jpg.html
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/hlritter/Iceland+for+Gallery/DSC00310.jpg.html
> >> <
> >>
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/hlritter/Iceland+for+Gallery/DSC00310.jpg.html
> >>>
> >>
> >> View large to see details.
> >>
> >> That?s why it would take at least a twofold increase in pixel count to
> get
> >> me interested.
> >>
> >> ?howard
> >>
> >>> On Nov 3, 2019, at 6:51 PM, Frank Filippone via LUG <
> lug at leica-users.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I am waiting for the 60MP M.  With IBIS.
> >>>
> >>> Without the 25% Duty surcharge.
> >>>
> >>> Frank Filippone
> >>>
> >>> Red735i at verizon.net
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Just wondering who has purchased an M10 (I know Howard C did, may be
> John
> >>> M?), and who might purchase one, and who might consider getting the
> M10M
> >>> when that becomes available?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >
> >
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