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Subject: [Leica] LUG yearbook
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2019 11:14:53 -0400
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I kinda felt that was pretty obvious for years as we are the Leica Users 
Group  to use the Leica we'd be using to put in the yearbook but was solidly 
shot down like I was saying the Earth was flat. The first issues were all 
about getting the thing going in terms of volume I was told so we should not 
be too picky and the following issue would be Leica. That didn?t happen. But 
lots more money for the charity.
All of the years I entered I put two pix in one was a Leica shot the other 
was a Nikon shot.
As I recall a just as big question for entries for  the first issues was 
film vs digital with many feeling at least one of your entries should be 
film based. Mine was. I got scans made from film I shot with one of my M6's 
on color neg. 
 It was nice the first issues being able to put pix to the names I'd see 
posting every week but few were walking the Leica walk as well as talking 
the Leica talk. It seemed just a bit lame. But when I first got on the LUG 
most the the main posters had not owned a Leica for years and had great 
reasons for how non practice they are as you can't take a proper photo  
without auto focus and so on. Then people started all having websites and 
galleries to put their images on and the only ones we'd see of these people 
were recent digital captures. No scans from film.

Another item was how current the pix needed to be.. Mine were shot that year 
right out of the camera hot off the press. Though I have a backlog of a 
decade of having my M6's and IIIF's being my main cameras many hundreds of 
rolls of film and prints. 
But I do think it should be current not the best Leica shot you ever made in 
your whole life; or your past Leica life.
I was often told I was not a Leica person as my recent work has been Nikon I 
think my body of work says otherwise.  I still have all my cameras and 
glass. The glass will be on a mirrorless body soon enough. Maybe a cropped 
format though. Which to me is very non Leica but I'm going to fly with it.
 

-- 

Mark William Rabiner
Photographer

?On 9/24/19, 10:38 AM, "LUG on behalf of jnelon" 
<lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of jnelon at 
nelonassociates.com> wrote:

    It doesn't matter what gear you use until you lead with "Leica" on the 
cover. That then narrows the contents of the yearbook to some Leica element.
    Jim
    
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    -----Original Message-----
    From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+jnelon=nelonassociates.com at 
leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Mark Rabiner
    Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 1:54 AM
    To: Leica Users Group
    Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG yearbook
    
    The slippery slope fallacy.
    If we allow Nikons we must allow Cell phones.
    Nothing in the end matters. It's all a big joke.
    It doesn?t matter what gear you use.
    
     
    -- 
    
    Mark William Rabiner
    Photographer
    
    ?On 9/24/19, 1:31 AM, "LUG on behalf of Sonny Carter via LUG" 
<lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of lug at 
leica-users.org> wrote:
    
        You?re probably going to get a Rolls when you buy one, but if you 
buy a
        Bentley, it?s made by VW, as are Skodas, Seat, Lamborghini and 
Bugatti,
        among others.
        
        Leica has rebranded Minoltas, Fuji, Panasonic, Sigma, Schneider  and 
I
        understand they?re getting ready to make a Leica and brand it a 
Zenit!  How
        about them apples?  Of course the LUMIX wears Leica branded lenses 
as does
        the Huewei phone/camera.
        
        In truth, I don?t think we can legally put the Leica brand on our 
cover,
        though we may have in the past.
        
        Drawing lines in the sand can get awfully confusing.
        
        SonC
        
        
        
        On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 11:31 PM Gerry Walden via LUG <lug at 
leica-users.org>
        wrote:
        
        > I want to make it clear that I agree 100% that the gear doesn?t 
matter,
        > but it does matter if you put the name LEICA on the front of the 
book. If I
        > buy a Rolls Royce and it has cheap plastic seats instead of 
leather it is
        > not good enough for the seller to say ?but it says Rolls Royce on 
the
        > bonnet!?
        >
        > Sorry, but that is the way I feel.
        >
        > Gerry
        >
        > Gerry Walden
        > 023 8046 3076
        > 0797 287 7932
        >
        > > On 23 Sep 2019, at 23:16, Ken Carney via LUG <lug at 
leica-users.org>
        > wrote:
        > >
        > > That's the way it seems to me.  I can't see how the gear 
matters, just
        > the photograph.  That is a good idea about a commitment to 
purchase the
        > book.  Maybe a purchase up front as a condition to submitting 
photos?
        > >
        > > Ken
        > >
        > > On 9/22/2019 2:06 PM, Don Dory via LUG wrote:
        > >> I think that the yearbook should be as open as the LUG gallery. 
 Most
        > of us
        > >> have Leica's and use them but not always or even mostly.  If we 
want the
        > >> best images then the device taking them is not so important.  
What I do
        > >> want is a commitment by the Luggers who submit images that they
        > purchase a
        > >> yearbook.  Brian will determine a charitable cause that is 
important to
        > him
        > >> and a charitable donation through a yearbook purchase(s) is one 
way of
        > >> paying him back for the hard work that putting this book 
together
        > entails.
        > >>
        > >> Last, please don't complain if an editorial decision is made 
that you
        > don't
        > >> agree with.  It is Brian's saloon and he has bellied up to the 
yearbook
        > bar
        > >> when no one else did.  He committed, we didn't so no complaints 
please.
        > >> Suggestions before are probably greatly appreciated but once the
        > decisions
        > >> are made let us all be good submitters and find two or so great 
images
        > so
        > >> that we can see what all of us have been up to in the best 
artistic
        > >> fashion.  Spaniels are great, airplanes are great, trains are 
wonderful,
        > >> grand(great grand)children are to be envied, street, fine art,
        > landscape,
        > >> whatever just submit some great images.
        > >>
        > >> all the best
        > >>
        > >
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        >
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        -- 
        Regards,
        
        Sonny
        http://sonc.com/look/
        Natchitoches, Louisiana
        1714
        Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase
        
        USA
        
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