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Subject: [Leica] Today I took again the Monochrom and found a new friend
From: frank at f3documentaryphotography.com (Frank)
Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2018 17:43:12 -0500
References: <7B922EFE-22D7-4CF8-AF95-94D63B3FB6D4@gmail.com> <AC7FA9B9-6597-400B-9F45-15F93CF7F764@frozenlight.eu> <220f3c83-6109-edf1-5d1f-12c2e24d5b3f@summaventures.com> <5CD290D0-773A-4FB5-8DF3-7F301ADB5474@icloud.com> <94CE8569-7449-44CB-9AF5-243B9384B042@gmail.com> <14db9d04-bcee-a9f9-bf7e-584936816f5d@altphoto.be> <LO2P265MB12479D71362EAE8A0091600CF90D0@LO2P265MB1247.GBRP265.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM> <41BF808C-12C8-40CB-9553-94C4814FBADF@gmail.com> <019403cd-5f3f-ade5-5c7e-b18bab551edd@summaventures.com>

I use a very old Sekonic. The one I toyed around with my M3. 

The M10 meter doesn?t seem to act like my M6. Maybe I?ve been shooting 
Nikons too long!


Frank F. Farmer
Jackson, Mississippi 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 2, 2018, at 4:43 PM, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I have a Weston IV, which I still use on occasion - when I can remeber how 
> it
> works! ;-)
> 
> Peter
> 
>> On 02/09/2018 13:41, Lluis Ripoll via LUG wrote:
>> I?m tyotally agree John, I have ot mentioned but I usually use the 
>> Sekonic L 308 in mode incident light
>> Lluis
>> 
>> 
>>> El 2 set 2018, a les 13:15, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.uk> va 
>>> escriure:
>>> 
>>> Using a spot meter makes the difference, I use the S in spot meter mode 
>>> as I never got to grips with its averaged metered reading.  
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.uk at leica-users.org] On 
>>> Behalf Of Eddy Willems
>>> Sent: 31 August 2018 19:09
>>> To: Leica Users Group
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Today I took again the Monochrom and found a new 
>>> friend
>>> 
>>> Luis when you work with a cour digital camera you can see this as a 
>>> analog slide-film, there you have to place the highlight in the zone you 
>>> which; Caucasian skin in zone VI, due to the linear response of the 
>>> sensor you have to place the skin in zone VII, this is to use as much 
>>> space at the right of the histogram and to have as little noise as 
>>> possible.
>>> 
>>> the monochrome is a different story this sensor works like a tri-x 
>>> without grain, here you expose for the shadows, it's perfect for working 
>>> with the zone system
>>> 
>>> I don't know how you work with your leica's, but I'm working in manual, 
>>> in raw, always measure with a spot meter but I must say withe monochrome 
>>> in A gives very good results.
>>> 
>>> best regards
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Op 31/08/18 om 13:56 schreef Lluis Ripoll via LUG:
>>>> Hi Gerry,
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for looking and for your comment, you are talking about an 
>>>> interesting point I was just yesterday discussing with a Leica friend 
>>>> in Barcelona, he said me he expose on the maximum highlighted point of 
>>>> the picture to avoid ?broken highlights?, I was saying him that this is 
>>>> not correct in my opinion, he was converting a Zone IX or X into a V or 
>>>> even IV, but everyone of us has his own rules. I have usually my camera 
>>>> set at -0.33 and many times I still expose half stop less, what minds 
>>>> I?m exposing -0.83.  This is usual rule when I expose with digital, I 
>>>> do this because in my opinion the highlights are easily over Zone X and 
>>>> with digital it is very difficult correct these over exposed 
>>>> highlights, if you want correct this in the edition as you say once the 
>>>> highlights are over exposed you can?t correct them and if you do it you 
>>>> obtain a ugly grey highlights. On the other hand with digital it is 
>>>> incredible the information you can get from the shadows, particularly 
>>>> with the Monochrom. But with film I do the opposite, remember the old 
>>>> rule ?Expose for the shadows and develop for the highlights?.
>>>> 
>>>> Lluis
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> El 31 ag 2018, a les 10:59, Gerry Walden via LUG <lug at 
>>>>> leica-users.org> va escriure:
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is really very nice. I notice that very often you set exposure to 
>>>>> -0.33 in-camera. Wouldn?t you get exactly the same effect if you did 
>>>>> this in post-processing do you think as surely it can make little 
>>>>> difference to the depth of field.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gerry
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gerry Walden LRPS
>>>>> www.gwpics.com
>>>>> +44 (0)23 8046 3076 or
>>>>> +44 (0)797 287 7932
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 30 Aug 2018, at 21:17, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I agree. Excellent shot Lluis.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 22/08/2018 20:07, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
>>>>>>> Just beautiful?the lady, the smile, the photo!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Un abrazo,
>>>>>>> Nathan
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Alicante, Spain
>>>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
>>>>>>> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
>>>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws 
>>>>>>> <http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: 
>>>>>>> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ 
>>>>>>> <http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator 
>>>>>>> <http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> YNWA
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 15 Aug 2018, at 02:58, Lluis Ripoll via LUG <lug at 
>>>>>>>> leica-users.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Martine
>>>>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Portraits/20180814_L1019134V2.jpg.html>
>>>>>>>> Leica Mm, Summilux 35 pre asph
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks for looking, your c&c are welcome
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Saludos cordiales
>>>>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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