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Subject: [Leica] Today I took again the Monochrom and found a new friend
From: lluisripollphotography at gmail.com (Lluis Ripoll)
Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2018 14:41:58 +0200
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I?m tyotally agree John, I have ot mentioned but I usually use the Sekonic L 
308 in mode incident light
Lluis


> El 2 set 2018, a les 13:15, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.uk> va 
> escriure:
> 
> Using a spot meter makes the difference, I use the S in spot meter mode as 
> I never got to grips with its averaged metered reading.  
> 
> John
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.uk at leica-users.org] On 
> Behalf Of Eddy Willems
> Sent: 31 August 2018 19:09
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Today I took again the Monochrom and found a new 
> friend
> 
> Luis when you work with a cour digital camera you can see this as a 
> analog slide-film, there you have to place the highlight in the zone you 
> which; Caucasian skin in zone VI, due to the linear response of the 
> sensor you have to place the skin in zone VII, this is to use as much 
> space at the right of the histogram and to have as little noise as 
> possible.
> 
> the monochrome is a different story this sensor works like a tri-x 
> without grain, here you expose for the shadows, it's perfect for working 
> with the zone system
> 
> I don't know how you work with your leica's, but I'm working in manual, 
> in raw, always measure with a spot meter but I must say withe monochrome 
> in A gives very good results.
> 
> best regards
> 
> 
> Op 31/08/18 om 13:56 schreef Lluis Ripoll via LUG:
>> Hi Gerry,
>> 
>> Thanks for looking and for your comment, you are talking about an 
>> interesting point I was just yesterday discussing with a Leica friend in 
>> Barcelona, he said me he expose on the maximum highlighted point of the 
>> picture to avoid ?broken highlights?, I was saying him that this is not 
>> correct in my opinion, he was converting a Zone IX or X into a V or even 
>> IV, but everyone of us has his own rules. I have usually my camera set at 
>> -0.33 and many times I still expose half stop less, what minds I?m 
>> exposing -0.83.  This is usual rule when I expose with digital, I do this 
>> because in my opinion the highlights are easily over Zone X and with 
>> digital it is very difficult correct these over exposed highlights, if 
>> you want correct this in the edition as you say once the highlights are 
>> over exposed you can?t correct them and if you do it you obtain a ugly 
>> grey highlights. On the other hand with digital it is incredible the 
>> information you can get from the shadows, particularly with the 
>> Monochrom. But with film I do the opposite, remember the old rule ?Expose 
>> for the shadows and develop for the highlights?.
>> 
>> Lluis
>> 
>> 
>>> El 31 ag 2018, a les 10:59, Gerry Walden via LUG <lug at 
>>> leica-users.org> va escriure:
>>> 
>>> This is really very nice. I notice that very often you set exposure to 
>>> -0.33 in-camera. Wouldn?t you get exactly the same effect if you did 
>>> this in post-processing do you think as surely it can make little 
>>> difference to the depth of field.
>>> 
>>> Gerry
>>> 
>>> Gerry Walden LRPS
>>> www.gwpics.com
>>> +44 (0)23 8046 3076 or
>>> +44 (0)797 287 7932
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 30 Aug 2018, at 21:17, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I agree. Excellent shot Lluis.
>>>> 
>>>> Peter
>>>> 
>>>> On 22/08/2018 20:07, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
>>>>> Just beautiful?the lady, the smile, the photo!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Un abrazo,
>>>>> Nathan
>>>>> 
>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>>> 
>>>>> Alicante, Spain
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> YNWA
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 15 Aug 2018, at 02:58, Lluis Ripoll via LUG <lug at 
>>>>>> leica-users.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Martine
>>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Portraits/20180814_L1019134V2.jpg.html>
>>>>>> Leica Mm, Summilux 35 pre asph
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks for looking, your c&c are welcome
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Saludos cordiales
>>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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