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Subject: [Leica] Today I took again the Monochrom and found a new friend
From: pdzwig at summaventures.com (Peter Dzwig)
Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2018 22:43:03 +0100
References: <7B922EFE-22D7-4CF8-AF95-94D63B3FB6D4@gmail.com> <AC7FA9B9-6597-400B-9F45-15F93CF7F764@frozenlight.eu> <220f3c83-6109-edf1-5d1f-12c2e24d5b3f@summaventures.com> <5CD290D0-773A-4FB5-8DF3-7F301ADB5474@icloud.com> <94CE8569-7449-44CB-9AF5-243B9384B042@gmail.com> <14db9d04-bcee-a9f9-bf7e-584936816f5d@altphoto.be> <LO2P265MB12479D71362EAE8A0091600CF90D0@LO2P265MB1247.GBRP265.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM> <41BF808C-12C8-40CB-9553-94C4814FBADF@gmail.com>

I have a Weston IV, which I still use on occasion - when I can remeber how it
works! ;-)

Peter

On 02/09/2018 13:41, Lluis Ripoll via LUG wrote:
> I?m tyotally agree John, I have ot mentioned but I usually use the Sekonic 
> L 308 in mode incident light
> Lluis
> 
> 
>> El 2 set 2018, a les 13:15, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.uk> va 
>> escriure:
>>
>> Using a spot meter makes the difference, I use the S in spot meter mode 
>> as I never got to grips with its averaged metered reading.  
>>
>> John
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.uk at leica-users.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Eddy Willems
>> Sent: 31 August 2018 19:09
>> To: Leica Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Today I took again the Monochrom and found a new 
>> friend
>>
>> Luis when you work with a cour digital camera you can see this as a 
>> analog slide-film, there you have to place the highlight in the zone you 
>> which; Caucasian skin in zone VI, due to the linear response of the 
>> sensor you have to place the skin in zone VII, this is to use as much 
>> space at the right of the histogram and to have as little noise as 
>> possible.
>>
>> the monochrome is a different story this sensor works like a tri-x 
>> without grain, here you expose for the shadows, it's perfect for working 
>> with the zone system
>>
>> I don't know how you work with your leica's, but I'm working in manual, 
>> in raw, always measure with a spot meter but I must say withe monochrome 
>> in A gives very good results.
>>
>> best regards
>>
>>
>> Op 31/08/18 om 13:56 schreef Lluis Ripoll via LUG:
>>> Hi Gerry,
>>>
>>> Thanks for looking and for your comment, you are talking about an 
>>> interesting point I was just yesterday discussing with a Leica friend in 
>>> Barcelona, he said me he expose on the maximum highlighted point of the 
>>> picture to avoid ?broken highlights?, I was saying him that this is not 
>>> correct in my opinion, he was converting a Zone IX or X into a V or even 
>>> IV, but everyone of us has his own rules. I have usually my camera set 
>>> at -0.33 and many times I still expose half stop less, what minds I?m 
>>> exposing -0.83.  This is usual rule when I expose with digital, I do 
>>> this because in my opinion the highlights are easily over Zone X and 
>>> with digital it is very difficult correct these over exposed highlights, 
>>> if you want correct this in the edition as you say once the highlights 
>>> are over exposed you can?t correct them and if you do it you obtain a 
>>> ugly grey highlights. On the other hand with digital it is incredible 
>>> the information you can get from the shadows, particularly with the 
>>> Monochrom. But with film I do the opposite, remember the old rule 
>>> ?Expose for the shadows and develop for the highlights?.
>>>
>>> Lluis
>>>
>>>
>>>> El 31 ag 2018, a les 10:59, Gerry Walden via LUG <lug at 
>>>> leica-users.org> va escriure:
>>>>
>>>> This is really very nice. I notice that very often you set exposure to 
>>>> -0.33 in-camera. Wouldn?t you get exactly the same effect if you did 
>>>> this in post-processing do you think as surely it can make little 
>>>> difference to the depth of field.
>>>>
>>>> Gerry
>>>>
>>>> Gerry Walden LRPS
>>>> www.gwpics.com
>>>> +44 (0)23 8046 3076 or
>>>> +44 (0)797 287 7932
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 30 Aug 2018, at 21:17, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree. Excellent shot Lluis.
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter
>>>>>
>>>>> On 22/08/2018 20:07, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
>>>>>> Just beautiful?the lady, the smile, the photo!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Un abrazo,
>>>>>> Nathan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alicante, Spain
>>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
>>>>>> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
>>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws 
>>>>>> <http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: 
>>>>>> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ 
>>>>>> <http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator 
>>>>>> <http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> YNWA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 15 Aug 2018, at 02:58, Lluis Ripoll via LUG <lug at 
>>>>>>> leica-users.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Martine
>>>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Portraits/20180814_L1019134V2.jpg.html>
>>>>>>> Leica Mm, Summilux 35 pre asph
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for looking, your c&c are welcome
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Saludos cordiales
>>>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>> Dr Peter Dzwig                            
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Dr Peter Dzwig                          



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