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Subject: [Leica] Today I took again the Monochrom and found a new friend
From: john at mcmaster.co.uk (John McMaster)
Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2018 11:15:46 +0000
References: <7B922EFE-22D7-4CF8-AF95-94D63B3FB6D4@gmail.com> <AC7FA9B9-6597-400B-9F45-15F93CF7F764@frozenlight.eu> <220f3c83-6109-edf1-5d1f-12c2e24d5b3f@summaventures.com> <5CD290D0-773A-4FB5-8DF3-7F301ADB5474@icloud.com> <94CE8569-7449-44CB-9AF5-243B9384B042@gmail.com> <14db9d04-bcee-a9f9-bf7e-584936816f5d@altphoto.be>

Using a spot meter makes the difference, I use the S in spot meter mode as I 
never got to grips with its averaged metered reading.  

John

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From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.uk at leica-users.org] On 
Behalf Of Eddy Willems
Sent: 31 August 2018 19:09
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] Today I took again the Monochrom and found a new friend

Luis when you work with a cour digital camera you can see this as a 
analog slide-film, there you have to place the highlight in the zone you 
which; Caucasian skin in zone VI, due to the linear response of the 
sensor you have to place the skin in zone VII, this is to use as much 
space at the right of the histogram and to have as little noise as possible.

the monochrome is a different story this sensor works like a tri-x 
without grain, here you expose for the shadows, it's perfect for working 
with the zone system

I don't know how you work with your leica's, but I'm working in manual, 
in raw, always measure with a spot meter but I must say withe monochrome 
in A gives very good results.

best regards


Op 31/08/18 om 13:56 schreef Lluis Ripoll via LUG:
> Hi Gerry,
>
> Thanks for looking and for your comment, you are talking about an 
> interesting point I was just yesterday discussing with a Leica friend in 
> Barcelona, he said me he expose on the maximum highlighted point of the 
> picture to avoid ?broken highlights?, I was saying him that this is not 
> correct in my opinion, he was converting a Zone IX or X into a V or even 
> IV, but everyone of us has his own rules. I have usually my camera set at 
> -0.33 and many times I still expose half stop less, what minds I?m 
> exposing -0.83.  This is usual rule when I expose with digital, I do this 
> because in my opinion the highlights are easily over Zone X and with 
> digital it is very difficult correct these over exposed highlights, if you 
> want correct this in the edition as you say once the highlights are over 
> exposed you can?t correct them and if you do it you obtain a ugly grey 
> highlights. On the other hand with digital it is incredible the 
> information you can get from the shadows, particularly with the Monochrom. 
> But with film I do the opposite, remember the old rule ?Expose for the 
> shadows and develop for the highlights?.
>
> Lluis
>
>
>> El 31 ag 2018, a les 10:59, Gerry Walden via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> 
>> va escriure:
>>
>> This is really very nice. I notice that very often you set exposure to 
>> -0.33 in-camera. Wouldn?t you get exactly the same effect if you did this 
>> in post-processing do you think as surely it can make little difference 
>> to the depth of field.
>>
>> Gerry
>>
>> Gerry Walden LRPS
>> www.gwpics.com
>> +44 (0)23 8046 3076 or
>> +44 (0)797 287 7932
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 30 Aug 2018, at 21:17, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I agree. Excellent shot Lluis.
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> On 22/08/2018 20:07, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
>>>> Just beautiful?the lady, the smile, the photo!
>>>>
>>>> Un abrazo,
>>>> Nathan
>>>>
>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>>
>>>> Alicante, Spain
>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
>>>> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
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>>>> <http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: 
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>>>>
>>>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator 
>>>> <http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
>>>>
>>>> YNWA
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>> On 15 Aug 2018, at 02:58, Lluis Ripoll via LUG <lug at 
>>>>> leica-users.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Martine
>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Portraits/20180814_L1019134V2.jpg.html>
>>>>> Leica Mm, Summilux 35 pre asph
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for looking, your c&c are welcome
>>>>>
>>>>> Saludos cordiales
>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>
>>>>>
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