Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2018/05/14

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Subject: [Leica] It's all your fault
From: jhnichols at lighttube.net (Jim Nichols)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2018 22:40:39 -0500
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Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA

On 5/14/2018 10:29 PM, Sonny Carter via LUG wrote:
> You didn?t need a smiley; I think it?s good that others know my philosophy
> of editing.
>
> Glory be we have these tools.
>
>
> SonC
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 10:08 PM Ken Carney <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote:
>
>> Yes, it boggles the mind to imagine Ansel or Gene Smith with Photoshop.
>> The over-exposed shoulder of the "pioneer woman", no problemo.  My reply
>> to Sonny was a failed attempt at humor, yet another one.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>>
>> On 5/14/2018 9:56 PM, Jayanand Govindaraj via LUG wrote:
>>> No different from what Ansel Adams did, with the tools at his command at
>>> that period of time, and quite obsessively, if you ask me! IMHO, he would
>>> be a very enthusiastic user of Photoshop if he was of this generation.
>>>
>>> Getting misty eyed about inefficient processes of the past, and not
>> taking
>>> advantage of current technology to improve the end product, is just a
>>> Luddite's dream.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> jayanand
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 7:10 AM, Sonny Carter via LUG <
>> lug at leica-users.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 8:16 PM Ken Carney <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So, those great flower pics...they have been digitally altered? OK, a
>>>>> little pollen I could understand, but a tear in the leaf...a tear that
>>>>> Mother Nature put there?
>>>>>
>>>>> Ken
>>>>>
>>>> Digitally altered?  I crop the image, I rotate it slightly to keep the
>> leaf
>>>> from trailing off the frame, I spot out a bit of dirt or pollen.
>> Sometimes
>>>> there?s a little rust on a petal.  Away with it.  Yeah, even a tiny tear
>>>> gets mended.
>>>>
>>>> I shoot all my images available light, hand held.  No black cloths
>> shield
>>>> the eye from the background.    Conversely, if an aged bud is in the
>> shot,
>>>> it stays.  A spider web? Stays.   A little ice burn on a Camellia?  It
>>>> might stay, like the one I posted the morning after our snow this year.
>>>>
>>>> These flower portraits get a good once over, just like portraits of my
>>>> wife, my grandkids or even my cats.  I want the subject to look good.
>>>>
>>>> Much truer than focus stacking or building panoramas from multiple
>>>> exposures, or even making black and white images of color scenes.
>>>>
>>>> If you shoot a picture, the camera digitally alters the light into an
>>>> image.  So the short answer to your question is yes.
>>>>
>>>> SonC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/13/2018 2:48 PM, Sonny Carter via LUG wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 1:43 PM Nathan Wajsman <photo at 
>>>>>> frozenlight.eu>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Right on. I do not even have Photoshop anymore. LR is more than
>>>> enough.
>>>>> If
>>>>>>> I have to spend 1/2 hour manipulating an image in a piece of software
>>>> to
>>>>>>> make it look decent, then I have screwed up at the time of taking the
>>>>>>> picture.
>>>>>> My mileage varies!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I use PS because LR doesn?t have an adequate way to spot images, and
>>>>>> flowers almost always have stray pollen, dirt or minute tears that
>>>> could
>>>>>> use attention.  I spend very little time ?fixing? images, but every
>>>> shot
>>>>> I
>>>>>> post gets at least a once over.  I also prefer the solutions available
>>>> in
>>>>>> PS for straightening falling buildings.   The nice LR tools are all
>>>>> present
>>>>>> in PS in camera raw filter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>> --
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Sonny
>>>> http://sonc.com/look/
>>>> Natchitoches, Louisiana
>>>> 1714
>>>> Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase
>>>>
>>>> USA
>>>>
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In reply to: Message from reid at mejac.palo-alto.ca.us (Brian Reid) ([Leica] It's all your fault)
Message from jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj) ([Leica] It's all your fault)
Message from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] It's all your fault)
Message from leica_r8 at hotmail.com (Aram) ([Leica] It's all your fault)
Message from photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman) ([Leica] It's all your fault)
Message from kcarney1 at cox.net (Ken Carney) ([Leica] It's all your fault)
Message from sonc.hegr at gmail.com (Sonny Carter) ([Leica] It's all your fault)
Message from kcarney1 at cox.net (Ken Carney) ([Leica] It's all your fault)
Message from sonc.hegr at gmail.com (Sonny Carter) ([Leica] It's all your fault)