Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2018/05/13

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Subject: [Leica] It's all your fault
From: leica_r8 at hotmail.com (Aram)
Date: Sun, 13 May 2018 18:29:28 +0000
References: <cef945b20d7f13c02c80255ae81af962@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> <CAH1UNJ2QbJZ_6tkqheFhbJtVAB5xFw1fe0sYDPcujK26DJ1pxw@mail.gmail.com> <389B28D3-D8BC-4F08-AD38-0B6B16B8FD88@rabinergroup.com>

Seldom and with resentment?  I don't think so.  I will wager that most 
people who use LR use it as their main tool for photography.  I so rarely go 
to PS now.  LR is so much easier and does 99.9% of what I want to do.  I 
import directly into it, organize, keyword, name my photos there.  Do almost 
all my processing there, with the exception of blending photos for Depth of 
Field, and the rare major editing I need to do as far as removing objects 
that I could not perform while taking the photo or in LR.  I do all my 
printing and exporting to share in LR.  Photoshop is ALMOST a waste of time 
and hard drive space.      ALMOST....

It took a while to get there from PS, but starting with the first version of 
LR, and getting use to the mindset of nondestructive editing, there is no 
resentment in using LR.  The only resentment is towards the subscription 
model that Adobe and others have started to use.

Aram

-----Original Message----- 
From: Mark Rabiner
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 12:41 AM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] It's all your fault

The reason why everyone does not switch and join up right off the bat is 
because we're talking about software that a large percentage of people use 
seldom and with resentment. They'd rather just skip it.
What's wanted is for photography now to be like in the good old days when 
you clicked it and forgot it. Just remember which drug store you brought it 
too.  People want a hands off approach to photography. They want it un 
touched by human hands especially their own..
It's one thing to buy cheap software but paying for it every month seems 
like one is sending off the wrong message. And the message is "I can't be 
bothered". And they really want everyone who does care to hear it. Often.
The majority of photo enthusiasts could more accurately be called camera 
enthusiasts who could more accurately be called money enthusiasts.
You can't really call them camera lovers as cameras just pass though their 
hands like its nothing.
Making a commitment to the final result of their images is so far beyond the 
point it's not even funny.


-- 

Mark William Rabiner
Photographer

?On 5/12/18, 10:55 PM, "LUG on behalf of Jayanand Govindaraj via LUG" 
<lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of 
lug at leica-users.org> wrote:

    I still cannot, for the life of me, understand why everybody does not
    switch, it is that convenient and at a very reasonable cost. Is cutting
    your nose to spite your face standard practice?

    As John Maynard Keynes once replied to a reporter who accused him of
    changing his mind - "If the facts change, sir, I change my mind. Pray 
what
    do you do?" :-)

    Cheers
    Jayanand

    On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 3:12 AM, Brian Reid <reid at 
mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
    wrote:

    > Well, I just drank the kool-aid (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
    > Drinking_the_Kool-Aid if you don't know what that means), and then 
bought
    > a year's subscription to Adobe CC. There were too many "last straw"
    > situations and I found I was wasting time trying to find workarounds.
    >
    > I know I can still use my trusty Photoshop CS6 and Dreamweaver CS6 if
    > needed, but InDesign CS6 is generating warning messages from the 
operating
    > system and Camera Raw CS6 fell out of its wheelchair.
    >
    > Thanks for all of the commentary and opinions.
    >
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Replies: Reply from photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman) ([Leica] It's all your fault)
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Message from jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj) ([Leica] It's all your fault)
Message from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] It's all your fault)