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Subject: [Leica] Film Lab
From: tedgrant at shaw.ca (Ted Grant)
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2017 10:20:10 -0700
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I just can't imagine going back to film to save my life.
Ok it was "interesting" in the beginning learning, souping, washing, drying, 
cutting, sleeving, contacting, printing, chemical trays all over again! ?
And have 80 rolls or more to soup and contact?
NOT ON YOUR LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :-(
My only problem with digital is?
"I'M NOT A TECHIE! ERGO? I WOULD BE FAR BETTER OFF WITH A TECHIE ASSISTANT! 
"Female, beautiful, talented"  TO DO ALL THE AFTER SHOOT TECHIE STUFF WHILE 
I'M LYING IN THE SUNSHINE BY THE POOL!!! :-)
cheers,
Dr. ted  :-) 


-----Original Message-----
From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On Behalf 
Of Mark Rabiner
Sent: June-06-17 11:46 AM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] Film Lab

Me too! As much as I loved working in it for decades I love even more not 
working with it now.
As much as I love having great classic or funky cameras in my hands I love 
image making more.
For me it?s about the picture.

 
 

-- 

Mark William Rabiner
Photographer

On 6/4/17, 10:15 AM, "LUG on behalf of Tina Manley" 
<lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of tmanley 
at gmail.com> wrote:

    I will never go back to film.  Life is too short.
    
    Tina
    
    On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 3:30 AM, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at 
gmail.com>
    wrote:
    
    > Dan,
    > Oh, I am sure of that!
    >
    > I feel that digital output is still better than darkroom output, 
though,
    > even for B&W. IMHO, there is simply no comparison, in the complete
    > workflow, from capture to print. As I said, others may have different
    > opinions and I respect that - I know Lluis does, and we have discussed 
this
    > many, many times privately, and in the end we just amicably agree to
    > disagree, and go on with what suits us individually! However, I find 
the
    > exchange of views very useful, leading to invaluable insights.
    >
    > Cameras are tools for me, and digital cameras, Fuji & Nikon, one for 
street
    > and one for wildlife, are my tools of choice at this point of time. The
    > Fuji GFX50S is tempting, and exerting a siren's song,  but I cannot 
see how
    > I have any use for it that makes it superior to my existing gear, for 
my
    > type of photography, and the sizes I print at present. A printer that
    > accepts 24" wide paper, instead of 17" that my Epson 3885 uses might 
be a
    > better choice right now!
    >
    > I have a fair amount of film camera equipment gathering dust on my 
shelves
    > and in the bank locker, more, I am sure, than most of the most 
committed
    > film shooters around - Leica IIIF and IIIG, Nikon F Apollo. F2AS,
    > F3Titanium, F4, F100, Canon and Nikon Rangefinders, Rollei TLRs, Mamiya
    > 645E - except for the Leicas, all of them were originally bought by my
    > family - uncles, aunts, father, myself - and finally found their way 
to me.
    > Most of these are with me because I did not have the wit (or the 
heart) to
    > sell them in time. This after selling most of my Leica film equipment 
in
    > London a few years ago (M3, M2, R6.2 and 10 lenses)!
    >
    > Pens and watches, on the other hand, are hobbies, passions which make 
them
    > an emotional issue, while cameras are just a utilitarian one! I am
    > particularly fond of JLR and IWC in watches, and Pelikan as well as the
    > Japanese trio, Namiki/Pilot, Sailor and Platinum as far as pens are
    > concerned, and primarily these are what I use.
    >
    > Cheers
    > Jayanand
    >
    > On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 12:30 PM, Dan Khong <dankhong at gmail.com> 
wrote:
    >
    > > Jayanand
    > >
    > > You might be more analog oriented than you think.
    > >
    > > I actually like collecting and using old fully mechanical watches and
    > apart
    > > from the antique look, almost all that I have are accurate and they 
run
    > > like clockwork. I also write with fountain pens in my work and cheap 
ones
    > > perform really well. So it looks that we have much in common.
    > >
    > > Dan K.
    > >
    > > On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at 
gmail.com
    > >
    > > wrote:
    > >
    > > > I disagree, I think film is nowhere as good as digital, but to 
each his
    > > > own.....:-) (Hey - I use mechanical watches and fountain pens!!!)
    > > >
    > > > Cheers
    > > > Jayanand
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 3:18 AM, lluisripollphotography <
    > > > lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > Gerry, Dan
    > > > >
    > > > > I?m agree of course, but film is not only nostalgia, it is better
    > > quality
    > > > > than pixels technologies?
    > > > >
    > > > > Cheers
    > > > > Lluis
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > > El 3 juny 2017, a les 23:23, Dan Khong <dankhong at gmail.com> 
va
    > > > escriure:
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Lluis
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Film and darkroom is far from dead. Ilford is revived as
    > > Harman-Ilford.
    > > > > > Kodak still makes films both for still photography and
    > > cinematographic
    > > > > > industry. Seems Star Wars and latest Bond movie were shot on 
film.
    > > Once
    > > > > in
    > > > > > a while, I set up my darkroom (bedroom for the dry part and
    > > connecting
    > > > > > bathroom for the wet part) and enlarge a dozen prints. Nothing
    > beats
    > > > the
    > > > > > smell of fixer for nostalgia.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Bests
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Dan K.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > On Sat, Jun 3, 2017 at 6:34 PM, lluisripollphotography <
    > > > > > lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote:
    > > > > >
    > > > > >> Jayanand,
    > > > > >>
    > > > > >> The best B&W is from the darkroom, now I?ve been back I 
regret to
    > > have
    > > > > >> spent so much time and money on digital?.
    > > > > >>
    > > > > >> Cheers
    > > > > >> Lluis
    > > > > >>
    > > > > >>
    > > > > >>
    > > > > >>> El 16 maig 2017, a les 5:05, Jayanand Govindaraj <
    > > jayanand at gmail.com
    > > > >
    > > > > >> va escriure:
    > > > > >>>
    > > > > >>> If it catches anybody's fancy!
    > > > > >>>
    > > > > >>> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/175814937/filmlab-an-
    > > > > >> app-for-viewing-and-digitizing-analog-f
    > > > > >>>
    > > > > >>> Cheers
    > > > > >>> Jayanand
    > > > > >>>
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