Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2016/11/10
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I agree with Tina. Some explanation might help. Some members of my family are Jewish. I watched on TV as people chanted Jew S A, Jew S A, Jew S A. I fear for them. Some of us are concerned and frightened for very real reason. Barney Barney Quinn, WK3Z C: (301) 775-1386 H: (301) 654-0938 > On Nov 10, 2016, at 5:40 PM, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote: > > Ted - > > This should all be moved to the forum, but a word of explanation first. We > in the USA are going through the five stages of grief and loss. I, for > one, still cannot believe what happened on Tuesday night. I have not > recovered. We have to go through 1. Denial and isolation; 2. Anger; 3. > Bargaining; 4. Depression; 5. Acceptance. > > I'm not sure I'll ever get to acceptance, but I'm in anger right now. > > Yes, I've been going back through old photos and posting some on FB. That > is some consolation to me that there was a past and there might be a > future. > > Tina > >> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 5:18 PM, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote: >> >> oH PLEASE,LET'S PUT IT BEHIND US ALL! >> NONE OF US, particularly me!" Can change anything. Forget the politics! No >> matter how you feel? None of you are going to change anything "TODAY!" >> If the sun happens to be shining? Nip outside and give yourself a moment >> assignment to look for an image? GO CLICK! IT'S A BEAUTY! SMILE! GO AND >> POST >> IT! :-) >> We'll smile, pat you on the back whomever you are and we'll quietly slip >> back into our normal life of being "HAPPY SNAPPING PHOTOGS!" >> THANK YOU ALL! >> cheers, >> Dr. Ted Grant C.M. CANADA MEDAL. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On >> Behalf >> Of >> Christopher Crawford >> Sent: November-10-16 1:19 PM >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Subject: [Leica] (SPAM: ?) Re: (SPAM: ?) Re: Lock Both Up >> Importance: Low >> >> Are you being deliberately obtuse? >> >> Of course I earn my living doing photography. The work I post here is not >> my commercial work. Its not very interesting, but it pays the bills. I >> don?t expect anyone here to buy my prints, but when you come on here >> telling me what I SHOULD be photographing, then you need to pay me for >> working for you. Since you aren?t hiring me, I will continue to shoot and >> post what I want and if you don?t like it that?s just too damned bad. >> >> -- >> Chris Crawford >> Fine Art Photography >> Fort Wayne, Indiana >> 260-437-8990 >> >> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio >> >> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798 >> Become a fan on Facebook >> >> >> >> On 11/10/16, 3:50 PM, "LUG on behalf of Philippe Amard" >> <lug-bounces+chris=chriscrawfordphoto.com at leica-users.org on behalf of >> photo.philippe.amard at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I don't know about the details Chris, but you told me/us you worked for >>> the >>> money. >>> >>> For me that's a good reason to shoot; the keyword is survival. >>> >>> Yet, is it a good reason to share your commercial art on the lug and >>> other >>> lists? >>> >>> How many of us luggers, Oly users and others have bought your prints? >>> >>> The LUG and the Oly list are not market squares, they're for friendship, >>> openness and photography or vice-versa. >>> >>> Locked in your own world, how many times have you congratulated any of >>> the >>> other posters? >>> >>> What do you share with them, us, me? Bucks? >>> >>> I'm sorry this appalling episode in your history takes us all so much way >>> downwards, really sorry. >>> >>> Philippe >>> >>> >>> >>> 2016-11-10 21:25 GMT+01:00 Christopher Crawford < >>> chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com>: >>> >>>> Steve?s attacking me because he thinks that I am posting these photos to >>>> support Trump. I?m not. As I have said MULTIPLE times, I am documenting >>>> the culture and people of Indiana. Like it or not, Indiana?s people >>>> supported Trump. That?s what I documented. >>>> >>>> Steve?s comment that I need to take ?good pictures? is like someone >>>> online >>>> going out of their way to criticize another poster?s spelling because >>>> they >>>> didn?t have the courage or the intelligence to criticize the ideas in >>>> the >>>> post. >>>> >>>> As I have stated, I will not be bullied by narrow minded people into >>>> changing what I photograph. Don?t like my work? Don?t look at it. Its as >>>> simple as that. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Chris Crawford >>>> Fine Art Photography >>>> Fort Wayne, Indiana >>>> 260-437-8990 >>>> >>>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio >>>> >>>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798 >>>> Become a fan on Facebook >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 11/10/16, 2:30 PM, "LUG on behalf of Douglas Barry" >>>> <lug-bounces+chris=chriscrawfordphoto.com at leica-users.org on behalf >>>> of >>>> imra at iol.ie> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Oh, I now see what Steve B wrote to rile Chris. I've moved it up in >>>> this >>>>> email to make it easier to see. Steve, it seems a strange place to >>>> bury a >>>>> fairly inflammatory comment. >>>>> >>>>> What are you trying to achieve? >>>>> >>>>> Douglas >>>>> >>>>>> Chris, >>>>>> >>>>>> If you want to make people think, how about some good pictures that >>>>>> make >>>>>> people think. >>>>>> >>>>>> steve >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Steve Barbour" <steve.barbour at gmail.com> >>>>> To: "LUG list" <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 5:28 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] (SPAM: ?) Re: Lock Both Up >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Nov 8, 2016, at 8:38 AM, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Gee guys it's all over in less than 24 hours! >>>>>>> "DO PLEASE TRY AND GET ALONG?" :-) >>>>>>> I mean you've had near two years to vent this stuff and here we are >>>>>>> voting >>>>>>> day and you are at each other's throats like a couple of wild >>>>>>> roosters >>>>>>> at a >>>>>>> hen party! :-) >>>>>>> My suggestion? Not that it means anything in your country. But it's >>>>>>> going >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> "FAR MORE INTERESTING TOMORROW AFTER RESULTS COME OUT!" Actually >>>> quite >>>>>>> wild >>>>>>> I bet? "CLOSE the HATCHES & dive deep!" >>>>>>> Be good boys until it's over, Thank you. >>>>>>> Now take two aspirins and call me after 10 a.m. tomorrow. Thank you >>>>>>> most >>>>>>> kindly. :-) >>>>>>> Now relax! >>>>>>> CHRIS: you go look for signs! :-) >>>>>>> SONNY: You go look for flowers in Adrian's garden! :-) >>>>>>> Now don't you both feel better? :-) :-) >>>>>>> Jeeeessh I hope this avoids a CIVIL WAR? :-) >>>>>>> KINDEST REGARDS TO BOTH. >>>>>>> Dr. Ted Grant C.M. Order of Canada >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On >>>>>>> Behalf >>>>>>> Of >>>>>>> Christopher Crawford >>>>>>> Sent: November-07-16 7:38 PM >>>>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>>>> Subject: [Leica] (SPAM: ?) Re: Lock Both Up >>>>>>> Importance: Low >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sonny, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tina Manley implied earlier today (post subject: Milestone) that she >>>>>>> might >>>>>>> leave the country if the election doesn?t turn out as she likes. I >>>>>>> didn?t >>>>>>> see any of your shrill outrage over that. To be clear, I am not >>>> upset >>>>>>> by >>>>>>> Tina?s post; its a free country and if she wants to leave its her >>>>>>> right. >>>>>>> It?ll be a great loss to our nation; but its her right to live where >>>>>>> she >>>>>>> wishes, and her right to voice her opinions. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As I said in my last reply to you, I am not going to stop what I am >>>>>>> doing. >>>>>>> I explained why quite clearly, and I stand by it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Chris Crawford >>>>>>> Fine Art Photography >>>>>>> Fort Wayne, Indiana >>>>>>> 260-437-8990 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798 >>>>>>> Become a fan on Facebook >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 11/7/16, 10:03 PM, "LUG on behalf of Sonny Carter" >>>>>>> <lug-bounces+chris=chriscrawfordphoto.com at leica-users.org on >>>>>>> behalf >>>> of >>>>>>> sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My comment was not about your art. There are plenty places to >>>> voice >>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>> opinion, and the forum is one such place. Don't embarrass yourself. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> from my iPad >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sonny Carter >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Nov 7, 2016, at 8:51 PM, Christopher Crawford >>>>>>>>> <chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I?m not going to stop voicing my opinions. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That is my job, I am an artist. We make people think and we >>>> sometimes >>>>>>>>> make >>>>>>>>> people uncomfortable. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Chris, >>>>>> >>>>>> If you want to make people think, how about some good pictures that >>>>>> make >>>>>> people think. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> steve >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Those of us who work in the medium of photography >>>>>>>>> document life; we?re historians, sociologists, psychologists, >>>>>>>>> anthropologists, and artists all wrapped into one. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sometimes the real world is crazy, scary, dangerous, uncivilized, >>>> and >>>>>>>>> cruel. We cannot put our heads in the sand and refuse to confront >>>> our >>>>>>>>> world; to do so allows the triumph of evil. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Chris Crawford >>>>>>>>> Fine Art Photography >>>>>>>>> Fort Wayne, Indiana >>>>>>>>> 260-437-8990 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798 >>>>>>>>> Become a fan on Facebook >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 11/7/16, 8:48 PM, "LUG on behalf of Sonny Carter" >>>>>>>>> <lug-bounces+chris=chriscrawfordphoto.com at leica-users.org on >>>> behalf >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I stood up for you when the subject of your images was under fire >>>>>>>>>> here. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> However, when you voice your own political opinion, I'll suggest >>>> you >>>>>>>>>> take >>>>>>>>>> it to the forum. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> from my iPad >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sonny Carter >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 7, 2016, at 7:17 PM, Christopher Crawford >>>>>>>>>>> <chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This sign pretty much sums up my feelings about the 2016 >>>>>>>>>>> Presidential >>>>>>>>>>> Election. Lock Both Up. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This handmade sign was posted in the middle of West State >>>>>>>>>>> Boulevard >>>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> western edge of Fort Wayne, Indiana. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://chriscrawfordphoto.com/chris-details.php?product=2535 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Chris Crawford >>>>>>>>>>> Fine Art Photography >>>>>>>>>>> Fort Wayne, Indiana >>>>>>>>>>> 260-437-8990 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798 >>>>>>>>>>> Become a fan on Facebook >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>>>>>>> information >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>> information >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>> information >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>> information >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >> information >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>>>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >> information >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > -- > Tina Manley > www.tinamanley.com > tina-manley.artistwebsites.com > http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information