Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2016/11/10
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Are you being deliberately obtuse? Of course I earn my living doing photography. The work I post here is not my commercial work. Its not very interesting, but it pays the bills. I don?t expect anyone here to buy my prints, but when you come on here telling me what I SHOULD be photographing, then you need to pay me for working for you. Since you aren?t hiring me, I will continue to shoot and post what I want and if you don?t like it that?s just too damned bad. -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-437-8990 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798 Become a fan on Facebook On 11/10/16, 3:50 PM, "LUG on behalf of Philippe Amard" <lug-bounces+chris=chriscrawfordphoto.com at leica-users.org on behalf of photo.philippe.amard at gmail.com> wrote: >I don't know about the details Chris, but you told me/us you worked for >the >money. > >For me that's a good reason to shoot; the keyword is survival. > >Yet, is it a good reason to share your commercial art on the lug and other >lists? > >How many of us luggers, Oly users and others have bought your prints? > >The LUG and the Oly list are not market squares, they're for friendship, >openness and photography or vice-versa. > >Locked in your own world, how many times have you congratulated any of the >other posters? > >What do you share with them, us, me? Bucks? > >I'm sorry this appalling episode in your history takes us all so much way >downwards, really sorry. > >Philippe > > > >2016-11-10 21:25 GMT+01:00 Christopher Crawford < >chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com>: > >> Steve?s attacking me because he thinks that I am posting these photos to >> support Trump. I?m not. As I have said MULTIPLE times, I am documenting >> the culture and people of Indiana. Like it or not, Indiana?s people >> supported Trump. That?s what I documented. >> >> Steve?s comment that I need to take ?good pictures? is like someone >>online >> going out of their way to criticize another poster?s spelling because >>they >> didn?t have the courage or the intelligence to criticize the ideas in >>the >> post. >> >> As I have stated, I will not be bullied by narrow minded people into >> changing what I photograph. Don?t like my work? Don?t look at it. Its as >> simple as that. >> >> -- >> Chris Crawford >> Fine Art Photography >> Fort Wayne, Indiana >> 260-437-8990 >> >> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio >> >> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798 >> Become a fan on Facebook >> >> >> >> >> >> On 11/10/16, 2:30 PM, "LUG on behalf of Douglas Barry" >> <lug-bounces+chris=chriscrawfordphoto.com at leica-users.org on behalf of >> imra at iol.ie> wrote: >> >> >Oh, I now see what Steve B wrote to rile Chris. I've moved it up in >>this >> >email to make it easier to see. Steve, it seems a strange place to >>bury a >> >fairly inflammatory comment. >> > >> >What are you trying to achieve? >> > >> >Douglas >> > >> >>>>> >> >> Chris, >> >> >> >> If you want to make people think, how about some good pictures that >> >>make >> >> people think. >> >> >> >> steve >> >>>>> >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >From: "Steve Barbour" <steve.barbour at gmail.com> >> >To: "LUG list" <lug at leica-users.org> >> >Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 5:28 PM >> >Subject: Re: [Leica] (SPAM: ?) Re: Lock Both Up >> > >> > >> >> >> >>> On Nov 8, 2016, at 8:38 AM, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Gee guys it's all over in less than 24 hours! >> >>> "DO PLEASE TRY AND GET ALONG?" :-) >> >>> I mean you've had near two years to vent this stuff and here we are >> >>> voting >> >>> day and you are at each other's throats like a couple of wild >> >>>roosters >> >>> at a >> >>> hen party! :-) >> >>> My suggestion? Not that it means anything in your country. But it's >> >>>going >> >>> to >> >>> be >> >>> "FAR MORE INTERESTING TOMORROW AFTER RESULTS COME OUT!" Actually >>quite >> >>> wild >> >>> I bet? "CLOSE the HATCHES & dive deep!" >> >>> Be good boys until it's over, Thank you. >> >>> Now take two aspirins and call me after 10 a.m. tomorrow. Thank you >> >>>most >> >>> kindly. :-) >> >>> Now relax! >> >>> CHRIS: you go look for signs! :-) >> >>> SONNY: You go look for flowers in Adrian's garden! :-) >> >>> Now don't you both feel better? :-) :-) >> >>> Jeeeessh I hope this avoids a CIVIL WAR? :-) >> >>> KINDEST REGARDS TO BOTH. >> >>> Dr. Ted Grant C.M. Order of Canada >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On >> >>>Behalf >> >>> Of >> >>> Christopher Crawford >> >>> Sent: November-07-16 7:38 PM >> >>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> >>> Subject: [Leica] (SPAM: ?) Re: Lock Both Up >> >>> Importance: Low >> >>> >> >>> Sonny, >> >>> >> >>> Tina Manley implied earlier today (post subject: Milestone) that she >> >>> might >> >>> leave the country if the election doesn?t turn out as she likes. I >> >>>didn?t >> >>> see any of your shrill outrage over that. To be clear, I am not >>upset >> >>>by >> >>> Tina?s post; its a free country and if she wants to leave its her >> >>>right. >> >>> It?ll be a great loss to our nation; but its her right to live where >> >>>she >> >>> wishes, and her right to voice her opinions. >> >>> >> >>> As I said in my last reply to you, I am not going to stop what I am >> >>> doing. >> >>> I explained why quite clearly, and I stand by it. >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Chris Crawford >> >>> Fine Art Photography >> >>> Fort Wayne, Indiana >> >>> 260-437-8990 >> >>> >> >>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio >> >>> >> >>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798 >> >>> Become a fan on Facebook >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On 11/7/16, 10:03 PM, "LUG on behalf of Sonny Carter" >> >>> <lug-bounces+chris=chriscrawfordphoto.com at leica-users.org on behalf >>of >> >>> sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> My comment was not about your art. There are plenty places to >>voice >> >>>> your >> >>>> opinion, and the forum is one such place. Don't embarrass yourself. >> >>>> >> >>>> from my iPad >> >>>> >> >>>> Sonny Carter >> >>>> >> >>>>> On Nov 7, 2016, at 8:51 PM, Christopher Crawford >> >>>>> <chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> I?m not going to stop voicing my opinions. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> That is my job, I am an artist. We make people think and we >>sometimes >> >>>>> make >> >>>>> people uncomfortable. >> >> >> >> >> >> Chris, >> >> >> >> If you want to make people think, how about some good pictures that >> >>make >> >> people think. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> steve >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Those of us who work in the medium of photography >> >>>>> document life; we?re historians, sociologists, psychologists, >> >>>>> anthropologists, and artists all wrapped into one. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Sometimes the real world is crazy, scary, dangerous, uncivilized, >>and >> >>>>> cruel. We cannot put our heads in the sand and refuse to confront >>our >> >>>>> world; to do so allows the triumph of evil. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> -- >> >>>>> Chris Crawford >> >>>>> Fine Art Photography >> >>>>> Fort Wayne, Indiana >> >>>>> 260-437-8990 >> >>>>> >> >>>>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio >> >>>>> >> >>>>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798 >> >>>>> Become a fan on Facebook >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On 11/7/16, 8:48 PM, "LUG on behalf of Sonny Carter" >> >>>>> <lug-bounces+chris=chriscrawfordphoto.com at leica-users.org on >>behalf >> >>>>>of >> >>>>> sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> I stood up for you when the subject of your images was under fire >> >>>>>> here. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> However, when you voice your own political opinion, I'll suggest >>you >> >>>>>> take >> >>>>>> it to the forum. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Thanks, >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> from my iPad >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Sonny Carter >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On Nov 7, 2016, at 7:17 PM, Christopher Crawford >> >>>>>>> <chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> This sign pretty much sums up my feelings about the 2016 >> >>>>>>>Presidential >> >>>>>>> Election. Lock Both Up. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> This handmade sign was posted in the middle of West State >> >>>>>>>Boulevard >> >>>>>>> on >> >>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>> western edge of Fort Wayne, Indiana. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> http://chriscrawfordphoto.com/chris-details.php?product=2535 >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> -- >> >>>>>>> Chris Crawford >> >>>>>>> Fine Art Photography >> >>>>>>> Fort Wayne, Indiana >> >>>>>>> 260-437-8990 >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798 >> >>>>>>> Become a fan on Facebook >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >> >>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >> >>>>>>>information >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >> >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >> information >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>> Leica Users Group. >> >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>information >> >>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> Leica Users Group. >> >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>information >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Leica Users Group. >> >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> --- >> >>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> >>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Leica Users Group. >> >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Leica Users Group. >> >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Leica Users Group. >> >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > >_______________________________________________ >Leica Users Group. >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information