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Subject: [Leica] Film Developing
From: richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 19:49:38 -0800
References: <D113FDCD.33B70%mark@rabinergroup.com> <616E1CB3-8E0E-432B-9BF0-3D0F555465C3@gmail.com> <05AB85AE-214D-411E-B297-B7F08A9322AC@gmail.com>

Plus-X has been gone for a few years :-/

On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 7:39 PM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote:

> Plus x is not available , but BWCN 400 is
>
> from my iPad
>
> Sonny Carter
>
> > On Feb 25, 2015, at 9:36 PM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > That may be, but B&H lists it in stock.
> >
> > from my iPad
> >
> > Sonny Carter
> >
> >> On Feb 25, 2015, at 9:31 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_discontinued_photographic_films
> >> List of discontinued photographic films
> >>
> >> This the first I'd heard of no more plus x. my basic black and white
> medium
> >> format studio film. In 220 or 70mm. Or 120.
> >>
> >>
> >> 5 Kodak Films
> >> 5.1 Kodak Verichrome Safety Film
> >> 5.2 Kodak Verichrome Pan
> >> 5.3 Kodak Super-XX
> >> 5.4 Kodak Technical Pan
> >>
> >> 5.5 Kodak Professional BW400CN
> >>
> >> 5.6 Kodak Professional TRI-X 320
> >> 5.7 Kodachrome
> >> 5.8 Ektachrome E200
> >> 5.9 Plus X 125
> >> 5.10 Panatomic X
> >> 5.11 ELITE Chrome Extra Color 100
> >> 5.12 ELITE Chrome 100
> >> 5.13 E100G
> >> 5.14 E100VS
> >> 5.15 E100GX
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 2/25/15 10:03 PM, "Sonny Carter" <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Kodak BW CN is still available.  You can buy it from B&H, or Amazon.
> >>>
> >>> from my iPad
> >>>
> >>> Sonny Carter
> >>>
> >>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 7:32 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Kodak stopped making their chromogenic black and white film (what
> this is
> >>>> called) a few years ago but Ilford still makes XP2 which I've used
> this
> >>>> decade to shoot film. It's embarrassingly good.  Its made of  dye
> instead of
> >>>> silver but how would you know? You can be all into darkroom chemistry
> and
> >>>> developing and be lucky to approach it with regular black and white
> films
> >>>> rated at 400. It seems to have the grain and sharpness of 100 films.
> >>>> As far as archivalness goes regular black and white film seems to last
> >>>> forever with a bit of care and luck but color neg always had a bad
> rep.
> >>>> The reason was when you brought it back into the darkroom again to
> make
> >>>> another print from a neg you'd printed before you count often not
> match the
> >>>> preceding print. The various color layers faded not at the same rate
> so
> >>>> you'd get color crossover. And there was no way to make a real good
> print.
> >>>> This did not take years to take place but months and even weeks and
> some
> >>>> color custom printers have told me days but I didn't see it with my
> own
> >>>> eyes.
> >>>>
> >>>> XP2 only has one layer so if it fades a few percentage points you can
> just
> >>>> add some contrast and probably match a print you'd made with it was
> fresh.
> >>>> All my Xp2 I've shot for decades still looks good and I'd expect
> would print
> >>>> perfectly. Certainly scan perfectly.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 2/25/15 8:11 PM, "Ken Carney" <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I can second that.  Ilford and Kodak make b&w films for C41
> processing
> >>>>> (WalMart, Walgreen etc.), and in my experience they scan better than
> >>>>> conventional negatives.  A downside is that they are shorter-lived,
> but
> >>>>> in theory at least they are forever once scanned.  Or, absent
> scanning,
> >>>>> as a long-time client of mine once said, at my age I don't buy green
> >>>>> bananas.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ken
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 2/25/2015 5:08 PM, Sonny Carter wrote:
> >>>>>> Have you checked Walgreen's?  Most of them still run C41, and you
> show
> >>>>>> three
> >>>>>> stores in town.  Check the one on Houston hwy, since it is close to
> UH.   I
> >>>>>> don't love their scans (at least at mine) but they do a good job of
> >>>>>> processing, and I do lots of small prints up to 8x10 there.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> from my iPad
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sonny Carter
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Bill Clough <
> billclough042541 at gmail.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> USA
> >>>>>>> TEXAS
> >>>>>>> VICTORIA
> >>>>>>> 25 February 2015
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi there--
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Never occurred to me--until now--to look through the Leica M's
> >>>>>>> viewfinder after cataract surgery. To my surprise, I now can frame
> and
> >>>>>>> focus again.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I have source for film but even the local drug stores no longer are
> >>>>>>> processing film.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I still have the kinder man tanks but would like to avoid all that.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'm open to any suggestions about where 35mm film still is
> processed
> >>>>>>> professionally.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Reply here are offline--
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks--
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --Bill
> >>>>>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Mark William Rabiner
> >>>> Photographer
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> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Mark William Rabiner
> >> Photographer
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> >>
> >>
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