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Subject: [Leica] Film Developing
From: sonc.hegr at gmail.com (Sonny Carter)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 21:36:48 -0600
References: <D113FDCD.33B70%mark@rabinergroup.com>

That may be, but B&H lists it in stock.  

from my iPad

Sonny Carter

> On Feb 25, 2015, at 9:31 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_discontinued_photographic_films
> List of discontinued photographic films
> 
> This the first I'd heard of no more plus x. my basic black and white medium
> format studio film. In 220 or 70mm. Or 120.
> 
> 
> 5 Kodak Films
> 5.1 Kodak Verichrome Safety Film
> 5.2 Kodak Verichrome Pan
> 5.3 Kodak Super-XX
> 5.4 Kodak Technical Pan
> 
> 5.5 Kodak Professional BW400CN
> 
> 5.6 Kodak Professional TRI-X 320
> 5.7 Kodachrome
> 5.8 Ektachrome E200
> 5.9 Plus X 125
> 5.10 Panatomic X
> 5.11 ELITE Chrome Extra Color 100
> 5.12 ELITE Chrome 100
> 5.13 E100G
> 5.14 E100VS
> 5.15 E100GX
> 
> 
>> On 2/25/15 10:03 PM, "Sonny Carter" <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Kodak BW CN is still available.  You can buy it from B&H, or Amazon.
>> 
>> from my iPad
>> 
>> Sonny Carter
>> 
>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 7:32 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Kodak stopped making their chromogenic black and white film (what this is
>>> called) a few years ago but Ilford still makes XP2 which I've used this
>>> decade to shoot film. It's embarrassingly good.  Its made of  dye 
>>> instead of
>>> silver but how would you know? You can be all into darkroom chemistry and
>>> developing and be lucky to approach it with regular black and white films
>>> rated at 400. It seems to have the grain and sharpness of 100 films.
>>> As far as archivalness goes regular black and white film seems to last
>>> forever with a bit of care and luck but color neg always had a bad rep.
>>> The reason was when you brought it back into the darkroom again to make
>>> another print from a neg you'd printed before you count often not match 
>>> the
>>> preceding print. The various color layers faded not at the same rate so
>>> you'd get color crossover. And there was no way to make a real good 
>>> print.
>>> This did not take years to take place but months and even weeks and some
>>> color custom printers have told me days but I didn't see it with my own
>>> eyes.
>>> 
>>> XP2 only has one layer so if it fades a few percentage points you can 
>>> just
>>> add some contrast and probably match a print you'd made with it was 
>>> fresh.
>>> All my Xp2 I've shot for decades still looks good and I'd expect would 
>>> print
>>> perfectly. Certainly scan perfectly.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 2/25/15 8:11 PM, "Ken Carney" <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I can second that.  Ilford and Kodak make b&w films for C41 processing
>>>> (WalMart, Walgreen etc.), and in my experience they scan better than
>>>> conventional negatives.  A downside is that they are shorter-lived, but
>>>> in theory at least they are forever once scanned.  Or, absent scanning,
>>>> as a long-time client of mine once said, at my age I don't buy green
>>>> bananas.
>>>> 
>>>> Ken
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2/25/2015 5:08 PM, Sonny Carter wrote:
>>>>> Have you checked Walgreen's?  Most of them still run C41, and you show
>>>>> three
>>>>> stores in town.  Check the one on Houston hwy, since it is close to 
>>>>> UH.   I
>>>>> don't love their scans (at least at mine) but they do a good job of
>>>>> processing, and I do lots of small prints up to 8x10 there.
>>>>> 
>>>>> from my iPad
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sonny Carter
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Bill Clough <billclough042541 at 
>>>>>> gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> USA
>>>>>> TEXAS
>>>>>> VICTORIA
>>>>>> 25 February 2015
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi there--
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Never occurred to me--until now--to look through the Leica M's
>>>>>> viewfinder after cataract surgery. To my surprise, I now can frame and
>>>>>> focus again.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  I have source for film but even the local drug stores no longer are
>>>>>> processing film.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  I still have the kinder man tanks but would like to avoid all that.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  I'm open to any suggestions about where 35mm film still is processed
>>>>>> professionally.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Reply here are offline--
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Thanks--
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --Bill
>>>>>> 
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