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Subject: [Leica] Film Developing
From: sonc.hegr at gmail.com (Sonny Carter)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 21:39:32 -0600
References: <D113FDCD.33B70%mark@rabinergroup.com> <616E1CB3-8E0E-432B-9BF0-3D0F555465C3@gmail.com>

Plus x is not available , but BWCN 400 is

from my iPad

Sonny Carter

> On Feb 25, 2015, at 9:36 PM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> That may be, but B&H lists it in stock.  
> 
> from my iPad
> 
> Sonny Carter
> 
>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 9:31 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_discontinued_photographic_films
>> List of discontinued photographic films
>> 
>> This the first I'd heard of no more plus x. my basic black and white 
>> medium
>> format studio film. In 220 or 70mm. Or 120.
>> 
>> 
>> 5 Kodak Films
>> 5.1 Kodak Verichrome Safety Film
>> 5.2 Kodak Verichrome Pan
>> 5.3 Kodak Super-XX
>> 5.4 Kodak Technical Pan
>> 
>> 5.5 Kodak Professional BW400CN
>> 
>> 5.6 Kodak Professional TRI-X 320
>> 5.7 Kodachrome
>> 5.8 Ektachrome E200
>> 5.9 Plus X 125
>> 5.10 Panatomic X
>> 5.11 ELITE Chrome Extra Color 100
>> 5.12 ELITE Chrome 100
>> 5.13 E100G
>> 5.14 E100VS
>> 5.15 E100GX
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2/25/15 10:03 PM, "Sonny Carter" <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Kodak BW CN is still available.  You can buy it from B&H, or Amazon.
>>> 
>>> from my iPad
>>> 
>>> Sonny Carter
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 7:32 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Kodak stopped making their chromogenic black and white film (what this 
>>>> is
>>>> called) a few years ago but Ilford still makes XP2 which I've used this
>>>> decade to shoot film. It's embarrassingly good.  Its made of  dye 
>>>> instead of
>>>> silver but how would you know? You can be all into darkroom chemistry 
>>>> and
>>>> developing and be lucky to approach it with regular black and white 
>>>> films
>>>> rated at 400. It seems to have the grain and sharpness of 100 films.
>>>> As far as archivalness goes regular black and white film seems to last
>>>> forever with a bit of care and luck but color neg always had a bad rep.
>>>> The reason was when you brought it back into the darkroom again to make
>>>> another print from a neg you'd printed before you count often not match 
>>>> the
>>>> preceding print. The various color layers faded not at the same rate so
>>>> you'd get color crossover. And there was no way to make a real good 
>>>> print.
>>>> This did not take years to take place but months and even weeks and some
>>>> color custom printers have told me days but I didn't see it with my own
>>>> eyes.
>>>> 
>>>> XP2 only has one layer so if it fades a few percentage points you can 
>>>> just
>>>> add some contrast and probably match a print you'd made with it was 
>>>> fresh.
>>>> All my Xp2 I've shot for decades still looks good and I'd expect would 
>>>> print
>>>> perfectly. Certainly scan perfectly.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2/25/15 8:11 PM, "Ken Carney" <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I can second that.  Ilford and Kodak make b&w films for C41 processing
>>>>> (WalMart, Walgreen etc.), and in my experience they scan better than
>>>>> conventional negatives.  A downside is that they are shorter-lived, but
>>>>> in theory at least they are forever once scanned.  Or, absent scanning,
>>>>> as a long-time client of mine once said, at my age I don't buy green
>>>>> bananas.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ken
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2/25/2015 5:08 PM, Sonny Carter wrote:
>>>>>> Have you checked Walgreen's?  Most of them still run C41, and you show
>>>>>> three
>>>>>> stores in town.  Check the one on Houston hwy, since it is close to 
>>>>>> UH.   I
>>>>>> don't love their scans (at least at mine) but they do a good job of
>>>>>> processing, and I do lots of small prints up to 8x10 there.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> from my iPad
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sonny Carter
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Bill Clough <billclough042541 at 
>>>>>>> gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> USA
>>>>>>> TEXAS
>>>>>>> VICTORIA
>>>>>>> 25 February 2015
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi there--
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Never occurred to me--until now--to look through the Leica M's
>>>>>>> viewfinder after cataract surgery. To my surprise, I now can frame 
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> focus again.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have source for film but even the local drug stores no longer are
>>>>>>> processing film.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I still have the kinder man tanks but would like to avoid all that.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm open to any suggestions about where 35mm film still is processed
>>>>>>> professionally.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Reply here are offline--
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks--
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --Bill
>>>>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>>> Photographer
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>>>> 
>>>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Mark William Rabiner
>> Photographer
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>> 
>> 
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