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Subject: [Leica] Peter Lik¹s Recipe for Success: Sell Prints. Print Money. - NYTimes.com
From: chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com (Chris Crawford)
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 20:31:43 -0500
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Ken,

I just wrote another post starting a thread about photographing black
people, check it out. I do not actually think film is biased for whites.
The problem is the printing. I worked in a photo lab in college, and the
auto-color balancing our Fuji Minilab used gave nice skin tones for
whites, but blacks were rendered very red/orange. This was the old optical
minicabs, not the digital ones. If I manually set the color balance of
photos of black people, which was easy on this machine because it had a
built in video monitor for that, then blacks had great skin tones. The
film rendered them just fine, the machine printing the negs screwed it all
up!

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On 2/22/15, 8:10 PM, "Ken Carney" <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote:

>In one workshop, we were told to take portraits of other participants.
>One of them was a black high-school photography teacher who, I thought,
>had a really great eye.  She complained that she was turning white in
>the photos, so after class we had a discussion about the zone system,
>gray coal, gray snow and all that.  After that she got some excellent
>images and, although I didn't realize it at the time, this was with film
>biased toward white people (sorry, I can't seem to let this one go).
>
>Ken
>
>
>On 2/22/2015 6:14 PM, Sonny Carter wrote:
>> In the sixties, when I was covering the marches, I wished my Spectra
>>incident meter would have had a brown hemisphere instead of white.
>>
>> from my iPad
>>
>> Sonny Carter
>>
>>> On Feb 22, 2015, at 4:30 PM, Ken Carney <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> I did notice it was the lead story in the business section, as opposed
>>>to art and leisure.  And then if you go to the photography section in
>>>the magazine ("A True Picture of Black Skin"), you will learn that
>>>"cameras and the mechanical tools of photography have rarely made it
>>>easy to photograph black skin".   But, one can work around these
>>>unfriendly tools, such as adjusting a light meter for black skin.
>>>Another revelation was that film emulsions were calibrated for white
>>>skin, and thus don't work will with black, brown or red skin.
>>>
>>> Ken
>>>
>>>> On 2/21/2015 9:22 PM, Matt Kollasch wrote:
>>>> Peter Lik
>>>> ? is, as my father used to say, "laughing all the way to the bank."
>>>>In my
>>>> mind if you are IN Caesars Palace you ARE the joke.? But what do I
>>>>know, I
>>>> am no Peter Lik, a man rich in confidence. Never heard of him till
>>>>this
>>>> article, though.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/22/business/peter-liks-recipe-for-succes
>>>>s-sell-prints-print-money.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=s
>>>>econd-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news#
>>>>
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Message from kcarney1 at cox.net (Ken Carney) ([Leica] Peter Lik’s Recipe for Success: Sell Prints. Print Money. - NYTimes.com)