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Subject: [Leica] My next Leica camera is a Sony A7
From: rgacpa at gmail.com (Bob Adler)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 09:30:03 -0800
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I'm getting a bit confused in this thread, all. On the Sony site from least 
to most expensive are the A7, A7S, & A7S. 
The A7R has more MP, but a noisy shutter, yes? More MPs only advantage is 
larger prints, better cropping?
A7S is the least MP, but most expensive. Newer processor, newer chip 
construction. So video is emphasis, but newer sensor build improves wide 
angle performance? Silent shutter mode not on other 2?
Is there somewhere best to compare? I'd prefer the input of this list's 
Leica users...
Thanks for unravelling for me...
Bob

Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 2, 2014, at 8:20 AM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> If you want to see many other examples, most of my pictures posted since
> the last new year have been with either the A7r or, (after it was stolen)
> the A7s, exif provided go to http://sonc.com/look/
> 
>> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Adam Bridge <abridge at mac.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Weighing in as someone who actually uses a Sony A7 & A7R on a regular
>> basis, with Leica glass, I have to endorse the ability of the camera to
>> focus well, especially in very low light conditions.
>> 
>> Friday night we had a wedding rehearsal dinner in a very dark room. I took
>> the A7 (my M8 would have been totally useless) with a CV f1.2 35mm lens
>> (the Noctilux wasn?t a good choice because of close focus limitations and 
>> I
>> could only take one lens). I was shooting anywhere from ISO 16,000 to
>> 24,000 wide open or just a bit stopped down so I could pretend I had some
>> depth of field.
>> 
>> The result was like shooting Neopan 1600, at least to my eye.
>> 
>> Here?s an example, processed from color to B&W (which I had intended to do
>> from the start) in Lightroom 5.6 which includes native support for the 
>> Sony
>> cameras as have the last few versions. Frank might want to update unless
>> there?s a reason to hang around with the previous generation?s software.
>> 
>> <
>> http://adam-bridge.smugmug.com/Family/2014-Pauls-Wedding-Trip/i-Wj6r27v/0/X3/2014-10-31-rehersal_dinner-29-X3.jpg
>> <
>> http://adam-bridge.smugmug.com/Family/2014-Pauls-Wedding-Trip/i-Wj6r27v/0/X3/2014-10-31-rehersal_dinner-29-X3.jpg
>> 
>> There are more snaps from that dinner and from work the previous day as we
>> toured.
>> 
>> Oh, here?s one of Ric Carter I shot at our lunch:
>> 
>> <
>> http://adam-bridge.smugmug.com/Family/2014-Pauls-Wedding-Trip/i-hdn2Msh/0/X3/2014-10-31-north_carolina_trip_friday-05-X3.jpg
>> <
>> http://adam-bridge.smugmug.com/Family/2014-Pauls-Wedding-Trip/i-hdn2Msh/0/X3/2014-10-31-north_carolina_trip_friday-05-X3.jpg
>> 
>> Ric is a great guy (but you knew that already, eh?) a great
>> conversationalist and recommended a super lunch spot (the Raleigh Times
>> Bar) where we enjoyed some seriously good lunch.
>> 
>> I can understand why being pro any other camera but a Leica on the list
>> might ruffle feathers. But the new M is terribly expensive, seems a bit
>> fragile from reports I?ve been reading, and doesn?t do some things as well
>> as the Sony.
>> 
>> I?m thinking Sony may be wishing they had designed the E mount a bit
>> differently at this point because it does place challenges on the 
>> designers
>> of future lenses. Leica had to work out its own issues with its sensor to
>> make it work well with its own wide angle lenses and even then there?s a
>> lot of software involved behind the scenes (ignore that man behind the
>> curtain?) to get it to come together.
>> 
>> For me, I?m with Frank. Sony A7(RS) are my new Leicas. I?ll be buying more
>> Zeiss glass to complement them.
>> 
>> I will say that I have no issue with focusing using the ?zoom? system.
>> Native lenses like the new manual Zeiss lenses, will dip into zoom mode as
>> you focus which works rather nicely.
>> 
>> Adam Bridge
>> 
>>> On Nov 2, 2014, at 8:24 AM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well there ya go. The Sony a7s is not cropped but full frame. It is less
>> expensive. Maybe gaffers tape?  It is a premium product, being used to
>> shoot films with 4k.  Sony imaging is what you are watching when you are
>> watching baseball football and soccer (football).  And when you get into
>> that driverless car, Sony will steer it.
>>> 
>>> This is the camera you were wishing for on the LUG aloud, Mark,
>> remember? By brand name!
>> 
>> 
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> 
> 
> -- 
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> 
> Sonny
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