Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2014/07/11

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Subject: [Leica] Lightroom and the subscription model
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 20:05:31 -0400

I knew you were getting an S2... Perhaps before you did! The camera has your
name all over it. Get a short tele and you're good to go. I had nothing but
a 150 Sonnar on my first Hasselblad for a few years. And a 105 2.5 on my
Nikon.
On some of your subject matter though pretty girls is a theme which has
broad forgive the pun interest. Walk by the magazine rack and take a glance.
Its all you see.  Everyone loves looking at pretty girls.
Pretty girls love looking at pretty girls.
Is Elle and Vogue filled with pix of guys? No!
The Babes rule.


On 7/11/14 7:08 PM, "Geoff Hopkinson" <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Mark that's twice you said something nice about me here recently.
> Thanks!
> I am shootings lots although maybe not work that interests much of the LUG,
> and I do thoroughly enjoy learning to use the tools available for
> developing as well.  I have shot 10,500 frames with my M in 9 months thus
> far and I just got the S2 as well so that will hardly improve how much time
> I'm committed to for my photography. Now for another 12 hours in every day
> ;-) I think I'm 1000 images behind in my editing and I'm working with five
> different models in the studio over the next few days as well.
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers
> Geoff
> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
> 
> 
> On 12 July 2014 07:41, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
> 
>> "yes I would get the upgrade or start paying  the ten bucks but my extreme
>> disinterest in working at all with my images precludes that".
>> 
>> We've leaned that there is a  often a correlation between the amount 
>> people
>> spend on exotic gear and their interest in the craft itself.  And its not
>> good.
>> The ones like yourself, Hoppy who commit to the work itself and a few
>> others
>> are veering toward being the exception. That being a good thing.
>> Ten bucks a month means lifting a pinky finger. And that's more than a lot
>> of these guys are going to do.
>> And they remind us of this over and over again. Like every time there is 
>> an
>> upgrade as if there is some question as if we want the upgrade or not.
>> "is it worth the upgrade?" being totally an internet phenomenon.
>> As is "overshooting" and "you need to always shoot wide open to take full
>> advantage of  your quality glass".  ...
>> 
>> On 7/10/14 4:58 PM, "Geoff Hopkinson" <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I don't think it would be a reasonable business model to have someone
>> rent
>>> for a while and then give them the product for free when they stop paying
>>> the rent!
>>> However if you have Lightroom bundled with Photoshop under the $9.99 a
>>> month plan and stop that subscription, the catalogue part does keep
>> working
>>> and actually if you have quick develop settings on import those keep
>>> working too.
>>> 
>>> Of course Lightroom is still available under the perpetual licence model
>> to
>>> purchase at retail or the same bundled with some cameras, especially ones
>>> that have a red dot on them ;-)
>>> 
>>> I know that some people just dislike the subscription idea from anyone,
>>> which is personal choice of course.
>>> I actually have perpetual licences for both the Creative Suite and
>>> Lightroom but the $9.99 a month is compelling enough for me with the
>>> continuing updates especially that I use that in their place on two
>>> computers here.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Geoff
>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 11 July 2014 04:22, piers at hemy.org <piers.hemy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Thanks for posting this Geoff as it did tell me something I didn't know,
>>>> although not the good news that Victoria intended. I had assumed that LR
>>>> was a one time add on to PSCC that would continue to be usable after the
>>>> subscription expiry. Not so! Develop mode is disabled if there is no
>> valid
>>>> subscription.
>>>> 
>>>> :-(
>>>> 
>>>> Piers
>>>>  On 9 Jul 2014 22:55, "Geoff Hopkinson" <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> This post from Victoria Bampton may be of interest to anyone
>> considering
>>>>> Adobe's subscription packages.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>> http://www.lightroomqueen.com/cancel-cc-subscription-youll-lose-work-will/
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Geoff
>>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>>>>> 
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>> 
>> 
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>> 
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