Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2014/07/11

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Subject: [Leica] Lightroom and the subscription model
From: hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 09:08:53 +1000
References: <CAE3QcF6fy3dDZzc=wYAwbF9ffp8yHK_rHT345y5C8vcAfD47qQ@mail.gmail.com> <CFE5D250.218B3%mark@rabinergroup.com>

Hey Mark that's twice you said something nice about me here recently.
Thanks!
I am shootings lots although maybe not work that interests much of the LUG,
and I do thoroughly enjoy learning to use the tools available for
developing as well.  I have shot 10,500 frames with my M in 9 months thus
far and I just got the S2 as well so that will hardly improve how much time
I'm committed to for my photography. Now for another 12 hours in every day
;-) I think I'm 1000 images behind in my editing and I'm working with five
different models in the studio over the next few days as well.



Cheers
Geoff
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman


On 12 July 2014 07:41, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:

> "yes I would get the upgrade or start paying  the ten bucks but my extreme
> disinterest in working at all with my images precludes that".
>
> We've leaned that there is a  often a correlation between the amount people
> spend on exotic gear and their interest in the craft itself.  And its not
> good.
> The ones like yourself, Hoppy who commit to the work itself and a few
> others
> are veering toward being the exception. That being a good thing.
> Ten bucks a month means lifting a pinky finger. And that's more than a lot
> of these guys are going to do.
> And they remind us of this over and over again. Like every time there is an
> upgrade as if there is some question as if we want the upgrade or not.
> "is it worth the upgrade?" being totally an internet phenomenon.
> As is "overshooting" and "you need to always shoot wide open to take full
> advantage of  your quality glass".  ...
>
> On 7/10/14 4:58 PM, "Geoff Hopkinson" <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I don't think it would be a reasonable business model to have someone
> rent
> > for a while and then give them the product for free when they stop paying
> > the rent!
> > However if you have Lightroom bundled with Photoshop under the $9.99 a
> > month plan and stop that subscription, the catalogue part does keep
> working
> > and actually if you have quick develop settings on import those keep
> > working too.
> >
> > Of course Lightroom is still available under the perpetual licence model
> to
> > purchase at retail or the same bundled with some cameras, especially ones
> > that have a red dot on them ;-)
> >
> > I know that some people just dislike the subscription idea from anyone,
> > which is personal choice of course.
> > I actually have perpetual licences for both the Creative Suite and
> > Lightroom but the $9.99 a month is compelling enough for me with the
> > continuing updates especially that I use that in their place on two
> > computers here.
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> > Geoff
> > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
> >
> >
> > On 11 July 2014 04:22, piers at hemy.org <piers.hemy at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks for posting this Geoff as it did tell me something I didn't know,
> >> although not the good news that Victoria intended. I had assumed that LR
> >> was a one time add on to PSCC that would continue to be usable after the
> >> subscription expiry. Not so! Develop mode is disabled if there is no
> valid
> >> subscription.
> >>
> >> :-(
> >>
> >> Piers
> >>  On 9 Jul 2014 22:55, "Geoff Hopkinson" <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> This post from Victoria Bampton may be of interest to anyone
> considering
> >>> Adobe's subscription packages.
> >>>
> >>
> http://www.lightroomqueen.com/cancel-cc-subscription-youll-lose-work-will/
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>> Geoff
> >>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
> >>>
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