Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2014/02/24

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Subject: [Leica] M4/3 format ascendant
From: hopsternew at (Geoff Hopkinson)
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 11:56:49 +1000
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Larry I  think that there is a lot more to the topic than you've addressed
Commenting only on the 'blather' remark. Leica continues to build on their
success since 2009, Kodak, not so much ;-)


On 25 February 2014 11:17, <lrzeitlin at> wrote:

>  Over a year ago when I was still a consultant to Kodak I mentioned that
> the optical engineering manager assured me that it was almost impossible to
> differentiate pictures taken with APS-C and Micro 4/3 formats. This was
> from the guys who developed the sensor for the M8 and worked on the M9. He
> told me that the reason that many manufacturers didn't adopt the M4/3
> format was that it required signing up for the entire package, lens mounts,
> image distance, etc. as well as format size. You had to join the club. Only
> a few major manufacturers including Olympus, Panasonic and Leica opted to
> do so. APS-C required no such commitment. My post was received with great
> disinterest on the LUG. The blather about full frame and legacy lenses
> continued. It's a new world guys. Smaller cameras are the wave of the
> future. Goodbye to Speed Graphics, Rolleis, even Leicas. iPhones rule.
> Larry Z
> - - -?
> Jim is absolutely right when he says:?
> "Already M4/3 is very hard to distinguish from APS-C for
> most applications. And the fact remains that larger sensors mean larger
> lenses. Neither of the top 2 manufacturers of APS-C DSLRs has ever made a
> serious attempt at a high quality lens line for their cop sensor cameras.
> I'm talking about a full range of high speed primes and fast zooms, so if
> the users of APS-C cameras want really good glass, they're forced into the
> full frame lines. Only the m4/3 consortium have made a serious attempt at a
> complete system with premium glass optimized for the smaller sensor. The
> jewel-like Olympus 12mm f/1.8, the 75mm f/1.8, Panasonic 8mm fisheye and
> 7-14 are the result. Extremely compact lenses of extremely high optical
> quality."
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