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Subject: [Leica] I can focus my Noctilux
From: rgacpa at gmail.com (Bob Adler)
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 21:35:30 -0800
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Hi Steve,

I do find the RF to be very accurate with both the Nocti f1 and the 75 f2. I 
don't know how to magnify the RF other than using my feet! ;-)

No, I like using the EVF on rocks and peeling paint (as Dr. Grant is fond of 
saying). I enjoyed using the EVF with the 21 and 35 when handholding for 
sunset reflections as I could angle the EVF up, like a chimney finder and 
have the camera almost in the surf:
http://rgaphoto.com/2013-11-Hawaii-Landscapes/content/M0001949_large.html
Also great on landscapes with a tripod and using different Lee filters. 

You also probably know with live view, the shutter has to open for the live 
view, close to flush the pixels, then open and close to capture the image, 
shutter wear is doubled. I find battery life is about 1/4 of what it is with 
straight RF shooting. 

All in all, I mostly shoot it like all other M's unless I'm in a special 
situation. I would use EVF more if I could pick where the live view 
magnification was and there was not as much of a lag. 

Is this TMI? Make sense? Answer the question?
Best,
Bob


Sent from my iPad

> On Feb 13, 2014, at 2:31 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Feb 10, 2014, at 7:57 PM, Bob Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Three issues I'm having with the Leica M + EVF and my Nocti:
>> 
>> 1.  I have to magnify the EVF image to see the eyes get "peaked"
> 
> can you focus critically with the rf without magnifying?
> 
>> 2.  Once peaked, reframing after depressing the shutter halfway is needed 
>> as the M only magnifies the center of the image. 
>> 3.  There is a delay between depressing the shutter and the sensor being 
>> exposed with the EVF (be design unfortunately!).
>> 
>> So I find it hard to use the EVF on people.
> 
> but not hard to use on other objects?
> 
> s
> 
> 
>> Easier to just move my head forward and backward with the optical range 
>> finder and get nearly instant exposure when pressing the shutter button.  
>> Hit rate seems better for me. 
>> Non moving objects are just the opposite. 
>> Just my experience.  
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Feb 10, 2014, at 5:44 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 10, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Which is a really interesting topic for me because all else being equal 
>>>> I
>>>> find that the RF is much more precise.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> more precise than what Geoff ?
>>> have you given an adequate trial to focus peaking?
>>> 
>>>> That is to say that in my experience
>>> 
>>> what is your experience with focus peaking?
>>> 
>>>> there is a range of acceptable focus peaking effect as you move the 
>>>> focus
>>>> ring (not dissimilar to a plain ground glass in effect?) but only one
>>>> moment when the RF is truly aligned.However that is not taking into 
>>>> account
>>>> focus shift which the EVF negates for you.
>>> 
>>> so you 1. see better what you are focussing on 2. have a separate 
>>> confirmation of focus  3. avoid focus shift (a biggie when you are wide 
>>> open) 4. benefit from focus peaking for long lenses as you mention below
>>> 
>>>> Of course the RF is not very
>>>> good at all if you want to use R lenses or long teles, or macros or 
>>>> third
>>>> party adapted lenses!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> so what's not to like?
>>> 
>>> Steve
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Geoff
>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 11 February 2014 08:40, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 10, 2014, at 2:17 PM, rgacpa at gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Whoop!
>>>>>> Did you try it with just the range finder?
>>>>> 
>>>>> MUCH less certain
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> s
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 10, 2014, at 2:06 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at 
>>>>>>> gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Feb 10, 2014, at 2:05 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at 
>>>>>>>> gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> finally, at f1...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/barbour/PAW+2014/glasses.jpg.html
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> focussed near lateral RIGHT rim, on RIGHT earpiece, 1/2 inch from 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>> rim...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Leica M 240 with Noctilux at f1, RAW file done with focus peaking,
>>>>> using Olympus VF-2..
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> many thanks,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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