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Subject: [Leica] PESO: RG Lewis and Leica M frustrations
From: scottgregory at mac.com (Scott Gregory)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 13:00:18 -0400
References: <CDC15DA6.9D56%mark@rabinergroup.com> <FDF64EEC-D4D6-4567-9849-3B870DE886B9@frozenlight.eu> <ECAC1CCE-0AD8-4FC3-B8F2-6ECD36C867E4@mac.com>

I wonder if this lack of product is to do with Leica stocking their own 
boutique should first and the heck with their long time dealers??

Scott


Scott


On 2013-05-24, at 12:02 PM, Leopold Green <leopoldgreen at mac.com> wrote:

> I'm a lurker so feel I shouldn't really say anything particularly as there 
> seems to be some animus here but I did wince when I read the R G Lewis 
> comments - am sure many Leica dealers must feel that and the lack of 
> supply must be hurting them but do you think quoting so directly in public 
> might not rather hurt him? He has to deal with Leica and  some of the 
> attributed comments, especially the 'extremely arrogant' bit won't help...
> 
> sorry I haven't got any right to criticise but they are a really good 
> dealer and I don't think you should have quoted him like that in public
> 
> Leopold
> 
> On 22 May 2013, at 05:27, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu> wrote:
> 
>> Take your meds, Mark.
>> 
>> Nathan Wajsman
>> Alicante, Spain
>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
>> 
>> YNWA
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 21, 2013, at 11:21 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>> 
>>> Congrats Nathan  this has got to be terrific for you.
>>> A triumph!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 5/21/13 6:18 AM, "Nathan Wajsman" <photo at frozenlight.eu> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I walked from my hotel to the Holborn Tube station this morning, and on 
>>>> the
>>>> way, as is my habit, I stopped by RG Lewis on Southampton Row, one of 
>>>> London's
>>>> best-known Leica dealers. I have been coming in his shop for at least 10
>>>> years, and usually we have a chat. This time he was telling about his 
>>>> woes
>>>> with the new M 240. He has one in the shop, a demo. Since they were
>>>> introduced, he has received and sold 7, all of which have been recalled 
>>>> for
>>>> the lug issue. He was utterly frustrated about the fact that there 
>>>> simply no
>>>> new Leica product to sell--the M is vaporware, the ME also, the M9 is
>>>> discontinued, so for anyone wanting to buy a new Leica M the options 
>>>> are very
>>>> limited. He told me of another dealer, in Mayfair, that is having cash 
>>>> flow
>>>> problems--not having product to sell and paying Mayfair rents is a 
>>>> deadly
>>>> combination.
>>>> 
>>>> And to top it off, Leica is being extremely arrogant towards its 
>>>> dealers,
>>>> basically telling them to just be happy they are Leica dealers and to 
>>>> shut up.
>>>> 
>>>> Conclusion: brilliant products, lousy customer relations and even worse
>>>> communications skills.
>>>> 
>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/belgiangator/misc/390823669_759797.jpg.html>
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Nathan
>>>> 
>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>> (sent from somewhere)
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Replies: Reply from steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour) ([Leica] PESO: RG Lewis and Leica M frustrations)
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