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Subject: [Leica] PESO: RG Lewis and Leica M frustrations
From: steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 10:10:20 -0700
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On May 24, 2013, at 10:00 AM, Scott Gregory <scottgregory at mac.com> wrote:

> I wonder if this lack of product is to do with Leica stocking their own 
> boutique should first and the heck with their long time dealers??


it could be that this lack of product is due to lack of product.....

> 
> Scott
> 
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
> On 2013-05-24, at 12:02 PM, Leopold Green <leopoldgreen at mac.com> wrote:
> 
>> I'm a lurker so feel I shouldn't really say anything particularly as 
>> there seems to be some animus here but I did wince when I read the R G 
>> Lewis comments - am sure many Leica dealers must feel that and the lack 
>> of supply must be hurting them but do you think quoting so directly in 
>> public might not rather hurt him? He has to deal with Leica and  some of 
>> the attributed comments, especially the 'extremely arrogant' bit won't 
>> help...
>> 
>> sorry I haven't got any right to criticise but they are a really good 
>> dealer and I don't think you should have quoted him like that in public
>> 
>> Leopold
>> 
>> On 22 May 2013, at 05:27, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu> wrote:
>> 
>>> Take your meds, Mark.
>>> 
>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>> Alicante, Spain
>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>>> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
>>> 
>>> YNWA
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 21, 2013, at 11:21 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Congrats Nathan  this has got to be terrific for you.
>>>> A triumph!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 5/21/13 6:18 AM, "Nathan Wajsman" <photo at frozenlight.eu> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I walked from my hotel to the Holborn Tube station this morning, and 
>>>>> on the
>>>>> way, as is my habit, I stopped by RG Lewis on Southampton Row, one of 
>>>>> London's
>>>>> best-known Leica dealers. I have been coming in his shop for at least 
>>>>> 10
>>>>> years, and usually we have a chat. This time he was telling about his 
>>>>> woes
>>>>> with the new M 240. He has one in the shop, a demo. Since they were
>>>>> introduced, he has received and sold 7, all of which have been 
>>>>> recalled for
>>>>> the lug issue. He was utterly frustrated about the fact that there 
>>>>> simply no
>>>>> new Leica product to sell--the M is vaporware, the ME also, the M9 is
>>>>> discontinued, so for anyone wanting to buy a new Leica M the options 
>>>>> are very
>>>>> limited. He told me of another dealer, in Mayfair, that is having cash 
>>>>> flow
>>>>> problems--not having product to sell and paying Mayfair rents is a 
>>>>> deadly
>>>>> combination.
>>>>> 
>>>>> And to top it off, Leica is being extremely arrogant towards its 
>>>>> dealers,
>>>>> basically telling them to just be happy they are Leica dealers and to 
>>>>> shut up.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Conclusion: brilliant products, lousy customer relations and even worse
>>>>> communications skills.
>>>>> 
>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/belgiangator/misc/390823669_759797.jpg.html>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Nathan
>>>>> 
>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>>> (sent from somewhere)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>>> Photography
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>>>> 
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