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Subject: [Leica] To tempt Fuji X users?
From: frank.dernie at btinternet.com (FRANK DERNIE)
Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 18:03:19 +0100 (BST)
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I tend to agree Jayanand. I mainly bought the Leica adapter since, having 
lots of M lenses, it seemed like a good idea! OTOH the results from the Fuji 
lenses have been most satisfactory, particularly the 60mm.
I don't think any of us find your wildlife photographs lacking in -any- way 
BTW

Frank D



>________________________________
> From: Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com>
>To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> 
>Sent: Saturday, 18 May 2013, 17:55
>Subject: Re: [Leica] To tempt Fuji X users?
> 
>
>Frank,
>You have to get the picture first before the quality comes into question!
>(-:
>I tend to gravitate towards systems that help you get the picture in the
>first place - low light capabilities and fast autofocus are far more
>important to me than the last 10% of final picture quality - as I mainly
>tend to shoot wildlife and street where both those qualities are important.
>I find I can print quite effectively up to A2 size with "inferior" systems
>and lenses. Anyway if you stop down the Leica M lenses to f5.6 or f8 for
>hyperfocal shooting then they are no better or no worse than other
>"inferior" makes at the same aperture, so you might as well use native
>lenses on camera bodies for ease of operation.
>Cheers
>Jayanand
>
>
>On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 10:09 PM, FRANK DERNIE
><frank.dernie at btinternet.com>wrote:
>
>> Well I bought the M adapter for mine but I don't seem to be able to get
>> the magnified view to come up for ease of focussing. It rather highlights
>> how dim I am when it comes to complex digital camera menu/button
>> combinations.
>> Whatever the picture quality the Leica M and DMR are very much better in
>> this respect than the Japanese cameras I have used (Canon, Nikon, Olympus
>> and now Fuji...)
>> Your post tempted me to get the adapter out again and use it with my
>> Noctilux, but I am struggling.
>>
>> BTW the lens compatibility list is, I think, a mechanical compatibility
>> list some lenses just don't fit or clash with something in the camera 
>> body.
>> The 6 memories in the adapter have to be set up to suit one can adjust
>> between 7 barrel distortion settings a colour shading matrix and 
>> vignetting
>> correction or increase, 4 do not allow focal length to be changed and the
>> other two do.
>>
>> The shutter delay with the adaptor is to all intents and purposes nil.
>>
>> Frank Dernie
>>
>>
>>
>> >________________________________
>> > From: Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com>
>> >To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> >Sent: Saturday, 18 May 2013, 16:12
>> >Subject: Re: [Leica] To tempt Fuji X users?
>> >
>> >
>> >Frank,
>> >I think it will.... eventually. Those with R glass should be thrilled,
>> >though the results remain to be really seen (not glass optimized for
>> >digital). Other 3rd party (and slowly, perhaps, Leica) will follow.
>> >The issue I've read with the new M is that to preview the shutter is 
>> >open.
>> >To then capture, when you press the shutter release, the shutter closes
>> >then opens again, introducing a delay (significant, I've read). Ok for
>> >landscapers like me; not so good for decisive moment photographers.
>> >I am curious as to how or if Fuji has figured this out.
>> >
>> >Fuji has also implemented firmware that allows you to identify in the
>> >camera 2 non-Fuji supported lenses and 4 Fuji-supported lenses (the only
>> >supported lens chart I have found is here:
>> >
>> https://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/accessories/lens/mount/fujifilm_m_mount_adapter/compatibility_chart/index.html
>> >
>> >
>> >If it a Fuji adapter supported lens, there are built in adjustments for
>> >distortion (barrel/pincushion), color separation and light falloff. This
>> >information is passed in the metadata with the RAW file and can be read 
>> >by
>> >ACR/CaptureOne/Aperture (all accept the color separation unfortunately,
>> but
>> >this can be corrected in various 3rd party software if needed).
>> >More/better info here:
>> >
>> https://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/accessories/lens/mount/fujifilm_m_mount_adapter/
>> >*Note that many Leica lenses are supported!* (I bold this because I
>> believe
>> >someone pointed out the *rules* of this list is for Leica camera
>> >shooters...) I'm looking forward to seeing how the Nocti becomes an f/1
>> >75mm portrait lens! Unfortunately I don't see the 75'lux ASPH on their
>> >list; just teh 75'lux f/1.4. Hoping that's because the ASPH may not need
>> >correction.
>> >
>> >I only write this because I understand Ted is recovering and not
>> >able/allowed much computer time; otherwise I can hear him exploding about
>> >"KISS!!" "ALL THIS TECHIE CRAP. JUST GO OUT AND SHOOT!" :-)? That and,
>> >while waiting for the camera to arrive, I'm doing too much reading...
>> >
>> >Best,
>> >Bob
>> >
>> >
>> >On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 7:38 AM, FRANK DERNIE
>> ><frank.dernie at btinternet.com>wrote:
>> >
>> >> Presumably the new Leica M can be used this way also with any lens,
>> using
>> >> the screen on the back or the accessory finder.
>> >> FD
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >________________________________
>> >> > From: Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net>
>> >> >To: 'Leica Users Group' <lug at leica-users.org>
>> >> >Sent: Saturday, 18 May 2013, 13:40
>> >> >Subject: Re: [Leica] To tempt Fuji X users?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >So in reality, the Fuji is being used as a through the lens / focusing
>> >> >screen device + Leica glass....
>> >> >
>> >> >What I said about my waiting for Leica to produce an EVIL camera....
>> only
>> >> >this time, Fuji + adapter? did it first....
>> >> >
>> >> >I think this is a really good idea, and one that will catch on quickly
>> >> among
>> >> >users that are satisfied with the resultant image quality.
>> >> >
>> >> >To afford the Fuji is a $1K problem.? To afford a M (240) is a $7K
>> problem
>> >> >plus the focusing issues (for Leica lenses).
>> >> >
>> >> >Bob, I will be very interested in the results....
>> >> >
>> >> >Frank Filippone
>> >> >Red735i at verizon.net
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >I'm looking forward to seeing if my keeper rate improves with my
>> noctilux
>> >> >and 50/1.4asph and 70/f2 ASPH. An interesting experiment that won't
>> cause
>> >> >the collapse of the Adler-eau.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
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>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
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>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >--
>> >Bob Adler
>> >
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>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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Replies: Reply from jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj) ([Leica] To tempt Fuji X users?)
In reply to: Message from amr3 at uwm.edu (Alan Magayne-Roshak) ([Leica] To tempt Fuji X users?)
Message from rgacpa at gmail.com (Robert G Adler) ([Leica] To tempt Fuji X users?)
Message from red735i at verizon.net (Frank Filippone) ([Leica] To tempt Fuji X users?)
Message from frank.dernie at btinternet.com (FRANK DERNIE) ([Leica] To tempt Fuji X users?)
Message from rgacpa at gmail.com (Robert Adler) ([Leica] To tempt Fuji X users?)
Message from frank.dernie at btinternet.com (FRANK DERNIE) ([Leica] To tempt Fuji X users?)
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