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Subject: [Leica] Winogrand exhibit
From: richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man)
Date: Thu, 9 May 2013 13:35:24 -0700
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Thanks George, that's exactly the type of reasoned response I was hoping to
get.

It took me a bit to articulate my point. If it is not an observation but a
statement that I am/was wondering if there is some kind of color blindness,
I would stand by that.

If I am wrong on that statement, I am willing to admit it.

What I will not stand is that "reverse charges" of I accusing someone I do
not know as racist.

Thanks again.



On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 1:28 PM, George Lottermoser <imagist3 at mac.com> 
wrote:

>
> On May 9, 2013, at 2:29 PM, Richard Man wrote:
>
> > As  I said before, I am wondering if there is a case of color blindness,
> > and this is only in the context of someone who photographs at least 2-5
> > rolls everyday in NY / LA on average.
> >
> > I might very well be wrong in the observation, but isn't it interesting
> > that people jumped onto the "I am accusing a great man for being racist"
> or
> > that "other artists did not paint Asians" either.
> >
> > No one has actually said, gee, no, Winogrand does not have a case of
> color
> > blindness, you are just making a mountain out of molehill. I'd accept
> that,
> > but no, we have Mr. Rabiner accusing me, and Douglas and you jumping on
> the
> > bandwagon....
>
> Richard,
>
> Wondering if there "is a case of color blindness"
> does not, in my mind, qualify as an observation.
>
> The observation: "In the current show I don't see any [or too few]
> photographs of people of color."
> stands as the "observation."
>
> "the case" for or against Winogrand's personal take on race or people of
> various ethnicities
> would require much more research into the man's writings, proof sheets,
> interviews, books and past exhibits.
>
> I've watched his work since 1964 and never saw, read or heard evidence for
> "a case of Winogrand color blindness."
>
> >From 1965 through 1972 I worked A LOT for "black weekly newspapers" in
> Milwaukee and Chicago.
> Someone may claim that I had a bias of some sort.
> Reality: that's simply where I found myself working; for a variety of
> reasons.
>
> Regards,
> George Lottermoser
> george at imagist.com
> http://www.imagist.com
> http://www.imagist.com/blog
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>
>
>
>
>
>
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