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Subject: [Leica] My last aftermarket battery just died
From: richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man)
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 19:25:30 -0700
References: <CAE3QcF54o7ZF0zuubS4rMzDcMRxM60718DsTehw1BgWS6UJEhQ@mail.gmail.com> <CD67DC1E.67E5%mark@rabinergroup.com>

I am speaking from real knowledge here: modern batteries do have
protection, embedded processors etc. It's true that some no-name brands
come from the same factories. It's also true that unscrupulous
manufacturers would wholesale copy expensive batteries, think xerox copy
but in the manufacturing sense and sell them much cheaper. They may work as
well, or they may not, depending on how good the copy is.

I usually do not need more than 2 batteries, no matter how hard I shoot. So
I have 3, since I consistently misplace one of them.

Since my camera is multi-thousands, the battery cost is the least of it, so
I buy Leica's batteries. One less thing to worry about. None of them has
died.


On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
wrote:

> I know its wrong but think of the battery as part of the "motor" of the
> camera. I know its wrong but I wonder if its wall wrong. There may be a
> tiny
> thread of insane non sensible truth to it.
>
> Its always what you don't think.
>
> That's my motto.
>
>
> On 3/14/13 7:09 PM, "Geoff Hopkinson" <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > This is one of those long standing discussions. Some folks report good
> > experience with the much cheaper alternates and others not.
> > In this case Frank bought twelve and they have all died within two years.
> > Some are prepared to pay much more for the Leica branded ones  because
> > their assessment is that they should be more reliable and the extra is
> > acceptable for a 6 or $7000.camera and their photography That doesn't
> make
> > them suckers.
> > Everyone will do their own sums on cost/performance. Why not.
> >
> > One of my originals (I have 3 in total) is about five years old, one
> about
> > four and one three (new with my M9). All continue to work fine. Actually
> > Leica Camera suggests that 3 years is a reasonable life before
> replacement
> > is recommended.
> > Lower output from old or non-genuine items was the factor that Leica
> Camera
> > identified as contributing to card problems(write fails) with the M9,
> which
> > is why the latest M9 firmware was introduced.
> >
> >
> >
> > *If you want to take more interesting pictures,
> > stand in front of more interesting stuff* -- Joe McNally
> >
> > Cheers
> > Geoff
> > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
> >
> >
> > On 15 March 2013 07:39, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu> wrote:
> >
> >> Except that more often than not, the aftermarket batteries are made at
> >> exactly the same factory as the original ones. As someone said, a
> sucker is
> >> born every day.
> >>
> >> Nathan Wajsman
> >> Alicante, Spain
> >> http://www.frozenlight.eu
> >> http://www.greatpix.eu
> >> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
> >> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
> >>
> >> YNWA
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mar 14, 2013, at 10:23 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
> >>
> >>> Fro my Leica digital I used a Leica battery.
> >>> Fro my Nikon D whatever I used Nikon batteries.
> >>> I can tell you when the time ever comes for me to buy a seven thousand
> >>> dollar camera the last thing I'm going to do is go shopping for cheap
> >> third
> >>> party batteries. I'll blow a few more hundred and get a couple more
> >>> batteries with a red dot on it.
> >>> This thread has come on this list several times and every seeing time
> the
> >>> only person who seemed to hold this opinion was me.
> >>> Now I am feeling vindicated up the yin yang for the tables to have been
> >>> turned.
> >>> The only way I've not won out is the fact that using the cheap
> batteries
> >> do
> >>> not seemed to have ruined any cameras. I'd have thought there was a
> good
> >>> chance that might happen.
> >>>
> >>> I read a book on batteries in photography once it was by the Aaton
> >> company
> >>> head engineer or guy own owned the company or both..
> >>> A French company who made motion picture cameras and batteries.
> >>> Gave me a healthy respect for them. But since then the landscape has
> >>> changed. Its strewn with dead cheap batteries for one. ...Seeping toxic
> >>> waste into the top soil or water underneath.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I like expensive batteries. Silver ones. Light. Lith?
> >>> I say "give me the most expensive battery you got" then charge me
> double!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Mark William Rabiner
> >>> Photography
> >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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>
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// richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>


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