Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/03/13
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]As they say on the internet: "First World Problem." :-) On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Henning Wulff <henningw at archiphoto.com>wrote: > I just remembered another thing I don't like about the new M240. > > The frame lines are set for accuracy at 2m. That just plain sucks. I now > have an M8, set for nearest focussing distance, an M9 set for 1m and the > new M set for 2m. Heads are going to roll. Image wise, definitely. I will > be chopping a lot. On the 75mm, the difference between nearest focussing > distance and 2m is huge. Since 1960 I've gotten used to and been happy with > Leica M framelines showing as much or more than I'll be getting on my > pictures. And now I'll be getting less sometimes??? This is a mess. I never > had problems with the 'nearest focussing distance' setup, and this will > definitely cause problems. > > Henning > > > On 2013-03-13, at 1:02 PM, Henning Wulff <henningw at archiphoto.com> > wrote: > > > To the list of things I don't like should be added: > > > > The baseplate thing. Yes, they did now make the tripod socket part of > the body, and it is centered, but now you can't change card or battery when > the camera is on a tripod. I suppose they expect you to use the > multi-function grip in that instance, as that is also where hdmi out and > other sockets are. I hardly ever use an M on a tripod, but now that it has > macro and tele capability, I'm sure it will be used on a tripod more than > before. > > > > Why not have regular doors for battery and card, and have done with the > baseplate? It's a stronger and better made baseplate now, but it still is a > clunky thing you would like an extra hand for when changing battery and > card. When the M3 and M2 came out there was at least a plausible reason for > the baseplate, and at least with the M4 they fixed the need for a fourth > hand, but today the affectation of the removable baseplate is just silly. > > > > Henning > > > > > > > > On 2013-03-13, at 10:44 AM, Henning Wulff <henningw at archiphoto.com> > wrote: > > > >> I use fast cards in all the cameras; at the moment class 10 cards seem > to be the optimum as far as price/cost goes. I tried faster cards, but the > difference was miniscule. Class 6 cards are now no less expensive than > Class 10, but are definitely slower in various cameras. > >> > >> I should also mention that I agree with much of what Steve Huff said. > I'm hardly a fan of his and his style, but he has got most things right. To > counter some of his over the top enthusiasm, I should mention a couple of > gripes I have with the new camera. > >> > >> 1. It's too big. It has gotten heavier and a millimeter thicker. Not > much, but bigger again than the film M's. The general excuse is that the > sensor/LCD/control pack needs the additional thickness. Yes it does, but > all that means is that the distance from the lens flange to the LCD has to > be greater than the distance of the lens flange to the back of the film > cameras. Why not have the lens flange more exposed? Have it stick forward a > couple of millimeters and have the camera body the same size as an > M2-6(pre-TTL)? Obviously the larger battery has to go somewhere, but it is > packaged back to back with the SD card, so if it's just the battery, it > could fit in the thickness of an M4. I know it's probably stuffed full, but > let's work a little on miniaturization. Take a look at an RX-1; that has a > body that's a lot smaller than an M2. After all that I have to say that > using it for 30 minutes makes it disappear into your hands, and you notice > neither the thickness nor the weight > p > > ar > >> ticularly. > >> > >> 2. Exposure compensation doesn't work well. Now you have to hold in the > button on the front where the rewind lever was on film Leicas, and turn the > thumb wheel, all while holding the camera to your eye. Contortionists in > the crowd? The M9 could do this with just the rear wheel; much easier. For > those that say they never used exposure compensation and they often > accidentally moved the M9 dial, I say why not make this an option. Also > make the use of the movie button an option. I'm not going to use this for > movies, so repurpose it. This should be fixable via firmware. > >> > >> 3. The new shutter release threads, about which I've written before. > >> > >> 4. The electronic viewfinder (I got hold of a used Olympus one) while > quite sharp and with decent colour, is _really_ laggy. A lot different than > essentially the same viewfinder in the Olympus OM-D. It's useable, but > certainly not state of the art. That they should have gotten right, as that > is technology that has been available for a while. I doubt this is fixable > via firmware. However, there is a slight upside to this. It means that for > longer lenses, using magnified view doesn't cause as bad jitters due to > lack of stabilization as with a faster refresh. Of course, that also means > that the refresh for focussing isn't any faster than 30fps. > >> > >> Regarding image quality, I'm with Steve Huff also. It has amazing > quality, and while different than that of the M9, I would definitely say > that the new M is better. I profile all my cameras with a Colorchecker > Passport, so I get consistent output from all cameras, and I'm not > dependent on Adobe's profiles. The new M handles a much bigger dynamic > range, and doesn't produce nastiness in blown highlights. In fact, > highlights seem to roll off as well as on the Olympus OM-D, and that is > high praise. In other respects of course the M image quality is a lot > higher than that of the OM-D. Wide angle lenses behave better than on the > M9, and even the 12mm Cosina is useable again. > >> > >> Henning > >> > >> > >> > >> On 2013-03-13, at 10:05 AM, "Jim Nichols" <jhnichols at lighttube.net> > wrote: > >> > >>> Hi Henning, > >>> > >>> Owning neither the M8 nor M9, I'm just a casual observer. However, > from what I have read, wait times can be card dependent. Are you using the > fastest cards available for the M9? > >>> > >>> Jim Nichols > >>> Tullahoma, TN USA > >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Henning Wulff" < > henningw at archiphoto.com> > >>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:59 AM > >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica M240 > >>> > >>> > >>>> I sometimes shoot 7 shots in 15 seconds, all single shot. Then I get > to wait, and if the next good moment comes up 5 seconds after the last > shot??? It's just a slow camera. > >>>> > >>>> Henning > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 2013-03-12, at 1:59 PM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> That does not sound right, as (what I call) single shots I have > never hit the buffer. If you mean 'many' (about 7 or 8) shots in 4 secsonds > on single shot mode that is different... > >>>>> > >>>>> john > >>>>> ________________________________________ > >>>>> on behalf of Henning Wulff [henningw at archiphoto.com] > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> I would say that that major improvement in the new M is the speed. I > never have to wait for the camera, as I do with the M9. If I do single > shots, which is 99% of the time, I really can't outshoot it, whereas the M9 > often required me to wait 30 seconds until the buffer cleared, which is a > long time. Reviewing shots is also much faster. > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Leica Users Group. > >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Henning Wulff > >>>> henningw at archiphoto.com > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Leica Users Group. > >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Leica Users Group. > >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >>> > >> > >> > >> Henning Wulff > >> henningw at archiphoto.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > > > > > > Henning Wulff > > henningw at archiphoto.com > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>