[Leica] A perfect match: M8 sensor and 50mm? - Mark

[j2m46 at hotmail.fr (Jean-Michel Mertz)]

Hi Mark,Thanks for your comments. Well, my feeling is the match elmar 50 / 
2.8 + M produces pictures that are quite different from the 35 in colour and 
depth and 3-D effect. This is of course due to the tele effect of the 50. 
But there's also a sharpness and a very pleasant general feel that's 
specific to that lens. Jean-Michel
 > Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 16:39:03 -0500
> From: mark at rabinergroup.com
> To: lug at leica-users.org
> Subject: Re: [Leica] A perfect match: M8 sensor and 50mm?
> 
> It would seem that what ever issues a lens has toward the edges; 
> distortion,
> vignetting, lack of sharpness and or contrast using that lens on a cropped
> camera makes it a no brainer. Your simply not using that part of the image.
> Surprised to hear the M8 has to do a vignette trip to its images.
> 
> Like many photographers with some more extensive darkroom experience I tend
> to darken edges as a matter of course.
> Some of this comes from the idea that your enlarger  head may not be
> reaching to the edges with its light source evenly. So we want to not have
> them fall off. But most of it really is aesthetics. You don't want your eye
> to fall off that edge of the image. That's how its described really.
> 
> People buying Biogons and other true wides in the 80's and 90's were
> officered edge correction density filters for only a couple of hundred 
> extra
> bucks. I'd have saved my money but even asked for the opposite. A lens 
> which
> gave me more density on the edges not less.
> 
> 
> Its great having your compact 50 be a very compact short tele
> A 75 if its a 1.5 or a 66.5mm if its a 1.3 crop like the M8 and some
> Canon's.
> But when I went full frame I was incredibly glad to  "have my 50 back" as I
> thought of it. And my 105 2.5, and 80's. And of course my wides like my 28
> 1.4
> Their cropped personifications I never got used to.
> I wanted my glass back. I got them back.
> I also want my Leica glass back and that seems credible at this juncture.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 1/19/13 5:09 PM, "Geoff Hopkinson" <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Jean-Michel. The M8 and the M9 do apply corrections towards the edges
> > for vignetting effects. The amount varies according to the lens mounted.
> > The corrections affect both the natural vignetting and that introduced by
> > using a sensor with such a short flange difference (with those lens
> > designs).
> > So you might see exposure differences in those parts of the image. 
> > However
> > sharpness is not affected and there is not more information to process. 
> > It
> > is just down to lens characteristics and focus.
> > Of course the M9 has to work harder in that respect since the M8 is
> > effectively cropping off the edges. But both cameras certainly work very
> > well with wides and looking at the results printed large is a real
> > pleasure. Here are a couple of shots with each camera. You might 
> > recognise
> > the first location.
> > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/image/145655432
> > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/image/129099950
> > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/image/134209400
> > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/image/110354253
> > 
> > 
> > *stand in front of more interesting stuff* -- Joe McNally
> > 
> > Cheers
> > Geoff
> > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
> > 
> > 
> > On 20 January 2013 01:42, Jean-Michel Mertz <j2m46 at hotmail.fr> wrote:
> > 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I am not sure, this is of course based on my own experience, but I have
> >> come to believe that the M8 18x27 sensor can best handle images 
> >> produced by
> >> a 50mm lens. I think the wealth of information sent by wider lenses is 
> >> not
> >> as well processed, cf landscapes when the background appears to be a bit
> >> blurry (with my Sum 35 asph, for example). Can't discuss 50+ lenses. 
> >> Would
> >> anyone share this opinion?Jean-Michel
> >> 
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