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Subject: [Leica] How about this one?
From: tedgrant at shaw.ca (tedgrant at shaw.ca)
Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 13:12:54 -0700
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Tina Manley & BD. OFFERED:
Subject: Re: [Leica] How about this one?


> Absolutely, B.D!!  I have been to too many portfolio reviews and
> installations where supposedly "documentary" photography is totally
> performance art and more about the photographer than the subjects.
> Mirrors instead of windows.  Not documentary work!!<<<<

Hi folks,
My gut feelings about some of what we see these days as "photojournalism" is 
becoming the trash tripe for the "Idiot minds who do nothing but look at the 
Hollywood whores celebrity trash rag mags!!!!!
There isn't any more LIFE, LOOK, and the other greats of that nature any 
longer. Possibly in other parts of the world maybe?

It's the complete infatuation by the mindless celebrity rag-mag readers 
who've created much of the loss of pure photojournalism as it once was. For 
the publishing companies they make great income from the papparattzi fake 
photojournalism that creates the greatest income for publishing companies. 
So why would they bother with the horrors and interesting parts of the world?

 Besides TV is instant and by the time the magazine comes out it's old news. 
But then the Hollywood whores have changed their knickers and moved onto a 
new playboy or toyboy!!! Ooohhh just got to love that Hollywood crap! ;-) 
Doesn't it just make you get all exited? ;-)

cheers,
Dr. ted

 
> Tina
> 
> On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 2:45 PM, B. D. Colen <bd at bdcolenphoto.com> wrote:
>> Good for you, Tina. Too many people are turning documentary photography 
>> into a cross between fashion photography and performance art.
>> Typed with big fingers on tiny keys
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tina Manley <images at comporium.net>
>> Sender: lug-bounces+bd=bdcolenphoto.com at leica-users.org
>> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 14:43:35
>> To: Leica Users Group<lug at leica-users.org>
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] How about this one?
>>
>> I am very interested in that book and have ordered it. The
>> documentary tradition that I learned and have tried to apply is that
>> you change absolutely nothing for a photo. I never move anything,
>> never pose people, never even suggest that they do something over
>> again. If I'm lucky enough to get the photo the first time, fine. If
>> not, a reenactment does not qualify as documentary photography. The
>> reason I stay several days is so that people will forget that I'm
>> taking photographs and just go on about their lives. Sitting quietly
>> in a corner with an M camera and a Noctilux, I can be very boring and
>> unnoticeable. That's an advantage taking the photos but not promoting
>> them ;-)
>>
>> Tina
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Phil Swango <pswango at att.net> wrote:
>>> Ted Grant wrote:
>>>>My job was to cover the event! Not make a journalistic statement or 
>>>>political
>>> justification one way or the other!
>>>
>>>
>>> I agree that that's the ideal posture from a news perspective, but I 
>>> wonder
>>> how easy it is to keep your emotions and your seeing separate. Here's a
>>> book that explores the question. I haven't read it yet but Errol Morris 
>>> is
>>> a respected documentary filmmaker so I expect he's thought quite a bit
>>> about this.
>>>
>>> http://www.amazon.com/Believing-Seeing-Observations-Mysteries-Photography/dp/1594203016/ref=pd_sim_b_4
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>> Albuquerque, NM 87108
>>> 505-262-4085
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Tina Manley, ASMP
>> www.tinamanley.com
>>
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> 
> 
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> Tina Manley, ASMP
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