Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/06/09
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Thanks. I've given up for now. I also downloaded PS6 and ACR 7.1, but the same problem occurs. Everything is fine until I save the tif or psd file in the same directory with the raw file. The differences between the (unadjusted in PS) saved image and the raw image range from subtle to enormous. I guess it is not that big a problem - I can adjust in LR, edit in PS and then just save the tif file in a different directory. It is only when I save the PS image in the same directory with the raw file that either LR or PS is doing something to the image. Ken On 6/8/2012 8:10 PM, Robert Baron wrote: > When you click 'edit in PS' from LR you are given a choice of whether to > send it to PS with or without the adjustments you have made in LR. If you > haven't made any, the file opened in PS should open as a RAW file w/o any > adjustments. All things equal it should look the same, so obviously a > change is being made to it somewhere along the line. > > Then when you return it to LR are you returning the original file or a file > with the changes you made in PS? > > I know that consistency is reputed to be the hobgoblin of small minds but > there is something disrupting the consistency of your workflow. Your > assignment is to figure out what it is. > > Maybe you should get into preferences / file handling and preferences > /external editing and see if there are any clues there. > > --Bob > > ==On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 7:36 PM, Ken Carney<kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote: > >> Geoff, >> >> Of course it is difficult to follow - it was written by a C.P.A. Try >> reading some of our financial statements. I tried the same thing using LR >> 3.6 and PS 4 and PS 5.1 - same thing. If I open (edit in) PS and save the >> tif, viewing the two in LR (raw file and tif) the tif is much lighter, >> actually blown out. If I choose "develop" in LR for the tif, the >> brightness setting is much higher than the CR2 I chose to "edit in PS". >> As I suspected from the beginning, this is obviously a conspiracy to >> require an upgrade to CS6. Thanks much for your comments. >> >> Ken >> >> >> On 6/8/2012 5:13 PM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote: >> >>> Ken, that's difficult to follow! I might be able to shed some light on >>> some >>> of it at least. >>> PS 5.1 uses ACR6.7 which does not support all of the functions of LR4.1. >>> It >>> does not understand some possible raw adjustments and ignores them. >>> Photoshop CS6 uses the same raw engine as LR4.1. The current version is >>> Adobe Camera Raw 7.1xxx >>> Possibly there may be some profile changes for your Canon Raw files too? >>> Canon of course is a major client target and updates for Canon would be a >>> high priority for Adobe. I'm sure it doesn't hurt that Mr Knoll is a >>> Canon >>> user ;-) >>> >>> The working colour space in the raw converter is not the same thing as a >>> colour space assigned to converted files (such as TIFFs). I think it's >>> linear anyway, that is needs a big curve applied to become something we >>> easily relate to. But if you export a version as a TIFF you can choose to >>> make that Pro Photo as you did to preserve the maximum information. Keep >>> in >>> mind that you can't see all of the information in there on your monitor >>> nor >>> in a print. >>> For most monitors sRGB is more likely with a few high end ones very close >>> to all of Adobe RGB which is very largely covered by good inkjet printers >>> too. >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, 9 June 2012, Ken Carney wrote: >>> >>> I have seen a number of references to this problem in the Adobe forum, >>>> but >>>> have not seen an answer to it. Hopefully the wisdom of the LUG will >>>> bail >>>> me out once more. I can import a raw file (CR2) into LR 4.1, and then >>>> select edit in PS 5.1. If I save the PS file (as a tif), then in LR the >>>> CR2 and the saved tif files look quite different. Sometimes the tif >>>> will >>>> be lighter, sometimes darker. If I make any adjustments in PS, then the >>>> saved tif can look very different from the CR2 file. The odd thing is >>>> that >>>> when I look at the file as opened in PS (edit in PS) without any >>>> adjustments, it looks the same as the CR2 file in LR. So something is >>>> happening when I save the PS file (if I just open the saved tif in PS, >>>> sure >>>> enough it looks just like the saved tif file as seen in LR, i.e., >>>> different >>>> from the CR2 file). I have ACR 6.7 which is supposed to be compatible >>>> with LR 4.1 and both programs use ProPhoto as the color space. Sorry >>>> for >>>> the long question, but does anyone know what I am missing? 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