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Subject: [Leica] Nikon or Canon Full Frame; All Good (Older User's Perspective)
From: s.dimitrov at charter.net (slobodan Dimitrov)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 19:48:33 -0700
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I'm  not a happy camper. My 20-35mm, f2.8L, finally had to be  
scrapped. I'm waiting on word for the 24-70 replacement, though hardly  
any rumors floating around at the moment.
I'm missing a decent wide to short tele zoom.
S.d.


On Oct 24, 2010, at 2:53 PM, Bob Shaw wrote:

> Slobo:
>
> So it goes.
>
> As to the L glass;  All In Good Time, amigo, All In Good time.
>
> Somehow I think I'll see a post from you that you nabbed a sweet L  
> lens, complete with images.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> Bob Shaw
> rsphotoimages at comcast.net
>
>
> On Oct 24, 2010, at 2:38 PM, Slobodan Dimitrov wrote:
>
>> Congrats, Bob!
>> I tried using Leica glass with manual focus on DSLR. It's a waste  
>> of time, and time I don't have in one-time-only situations.
>> If I hadn't been into Canon glass at the beginning, I would of  
>> opted for a Nikon.
>> In that earlier time, the Canon, being plastic, was a light back-up  
>> for chromes, while shooting with a Rollei.
>> I just cant seem to get the missus to let me spring for more L  
>> glass!!!
>> S.d.
>>
>>
>> On Oct 24, 2010, at 1:37 PM, Bob Shaw wrote:
>>
>>> I was drawn to the D700 based on multiple Leitax posts and from  
>>> other internet sources.
>>>
>>> I went to Glaser's Camera in Seattle (Leica dealer) and negotiated  
>>> - as in I didn't get stabbed too deeply - and traded of my entire  
>>> R Kit:  R8, R9, 28-90 Asph, 70-180 APO, Motor Drive and Charger  
>>> for what I thought was going to be a D700 with two zooms of  
>>> similar range (if not quality).
>>>
>>> I ended up with a 5D Mk II, 24-105 USM, 70-200 USM MkII and a 430  
>>> Mk II flash, primarily because the comparable Nikon kit was nearly  
>>> $900.00 more for Nikon.  Because I promised myself whatever I  
>>> "bought" would have to be a net zero transaction.  Nothing  
>>> personal; just business.
>>>
>>> Now in my opinion either camera is a major improvement just for  
>>> the ease of shooting.
>>>
>>> So, why all of a sudden this change?
>>>
>>> 1.  After roughly 300 exposures, I see that I am now getting back  
>>> what I saw through the view finder, not what the CD yields after  
>>> scanning Leica R negs.  Dynamic Range to Burn.
>>>
>>> 2.  Almost all my shots are in focus.  If they're not, it's still  
>>> my fault for not believing what the little red rectangles were  
>>> trying to tell me.
>>>
>>> 3.  The full-frame sensor produces tons of dynamic range and very  
>>> rewarding enlargements.  Of course, same with D700.
>>>
>>> 4.  No more tiresome whining about poor shots to my patient, long- 
>>> suffering wife.
>>>
>>> 5.  I really grew tired of waiting for an R10 to hook up with my  
>>> legacy Leica glass.
>>>
>>> 6. Oh yeah, and I'm not getting any younger (indirect quote from  
>>> Dr. Ted).
>>>
>>> So my only film camera now is the trusty Contax T2 which is in  
>>> rehab while I look for a replacement back door - the Kyocera  
>>> Ceramic film pressure plate developed a hairline crack, rendering  
>>> all exposures just slightly out of focus.  My wife can't wait for  
>>> it to get well - she loves the camera and what it yields.  But  
>>> it's a keeper.
>>>
>>> To be sure, the Canon(Nikon) lenses are no match for the heft,  
>>> haptics and results of Leica glass, but I've also been a bit  
>>> amazed at the results from the new 70-200, especially hand held.   
>>> Come to think of it, the new 24-70 makes a great "on-camera" lens  
>>> when I use it properly.
>>>
>>> This isn't about D700 vs 5D Mk II.  It's about the freedom for an  
>>> older guy with a less steady hand and focusing eye to harvest  
>>> images worthy of keeping in iPhoto for later "migration" to  
>>> Aperture for serious fine tuning.
>>>
>>> This change has been so easy I almost felt guilty.  But I don't.
>>>
>>> I'm enjoying photography again and will continue to contribute to  
>>> the LUG as long I can be helpful and learn from such a fine  
>>> collection of ladies and gentleman photographers.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,   Bob in Seattle
>>>
>>>
>>> Bob Shaw
>>> rsphotoimages at comcast.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
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