Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/09/15
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Its great to now that technique means nothing. " hand-held at 1/13th of a second." this gives us an image we can make discerning comparative evaluations from. A digital print black and white on rag paper which may have been 13x19: Harold Cummer handed me at Photokina 2006 sure looked a notch and half better than any 1.5 or 1 crop print I'd ever seen. Sold me on medium format digital. It jumped off the page and looked 3D. Richard if you're convinced now that a camera with a sensor the size of your pinky fingernail can match the output from full frame and or medium format digital backs than think of all the money you're going to save! Nothing matters! I'm glad I know that now! -------------------- Mark William Rabiner Photography mark at rabinergroup.com > From: Richard Man <richard at imagecraft.com> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 00:39:58 -0700 > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Format output obviousness > > You tell that to Michael Reichmann: > > "At one point I found myself looking at raw files on-screen and not being > sure if I was looking at Hasselblad P45+ files or Canon G10 files. That > includes at 100% onscreen enlargements." > > and > > Over a two day period I invited photographers and local industry > professionals to come to my print studio and look at a series of 13X19" > prints from an *Epson 3800* printer made on *Ilford Gold Fiber Silk* paper > which were then hung side by side on my floor-standing print viewing box. > This collection of seven people included experienced photographers, people > from the commercial print industry, and other trade professionals. Between > them there was at least 200 years of photographic industry shooting and > printing experience. > > In most cases I did not tell them what they were looking at, simply saying > that I had been shooting with two cameras, and that they should divide the > prints (about a dozen) into two piles ? Camera A and Camera B. They were > asked to judge resolution, accutance, colour reproduction, highlight > detail, > dMax, and any other factors that they wished to consider. > The Results > > In every case no one could reliably tell the difference between 13X19" > prints shot with the $40,000 Hasselblad and Phase One 39 Megapixel back, > and > the new $500 Canon G10. In the end no one got more than 60% right, and > overall the split was about 50 / 50, with no clear differentiator. In other > words, no better than chance. > > > http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/kidding.shtml > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:28 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at > rabinergroup.com>wrote: > >> Every portfolio I've ever had or stack of prints; and every stack of >> prints >> other photographers have shown me I've always known which ones of my >> prints >> were 35mm, Medium format, or sheet film and I didn't have to bother >> telling >> them and they didn't have to bother telling me; as we all knew at first >> glance. >> I can normally easily tell the difference between a full frame digital >> image >> even at low output and cropped format digital output and I think many >> people >> can with any experience. And certainly the difference between that and >> point >> and shoots with sensors the size of my pinky nail. And the 2x crop in >> between. And medium format digital blows me right out of the water at >> least >> my eyeballs. >> If you can't tell the difference between your large and smaller format >> digital output the time to hang it up is now. >> Take up audio. >> >> -------------------- >> Mark William Rabiner >> Photography >> mark at rabinergroup.com >> . >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > > > -- > // richard <http://www.imagecraft.com/> > // icc blog: <http://imagecraft.wordpress.com> > // photo blog: <http://www.5pmlight.com> > [ For technical support on ImageCraft products, please include all previous > replies in your msgs. ] > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information