Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/08/01
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I'm just going to type this as I just this minute looked up sensor sizes having checked out the new Panasonic DMC-LX5. The Dpreview article says your typical point and shoot has a sensor diagonal or normal lens size of 8mm. (To me that makes the super 8) The DMC-LX5 by the may be over 10mm. But No ones going to say. But the Dpreview people say while the P&S shooters might have 8mm for a normal the cell phone people are using a 4mm. Is that half? As a reference I just pulled out a ruler and my pinky fingernail is 9mm's long. And I have very large hands. Me I just think of it as having been in the position of being out with a camera and getting a shot and bringing it home with me and fussing with it and wishing that I'd taken the trouble to shoot it with a more substantial camera. As the quality of the image was questionable. Takes effort to go "click". Why not have a real camera in your hands while doing so? Is my thought. That is why I have the only cell phone made with no camera in it. Keeps me sharp. Keeps me on my toes. I think "camera" I don't pull out my cell phone. -- Mark William Rabiner mark at rabinergroup.com > From: "Peter A. Klein" <pklein at threshinc.com> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2010 14:36:28 -0700 > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Subject: [Leica] IMG: My Leica is better than your cell phone > > A friend took some photos of me with his cellphone at a party I was > shooting with my M8. The light was a combination of tungsten and > cloudy-dull window light. > <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/friends/Davidov30/IMG00028-20100619-2 > 032.jpg.html> > <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/friends/Davidov30/IMG00029-20100619-2 > 035.jpg.html> > > And I shot him as he shot me. > <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/friends/Davidov30/L1006540-w-1.JPG.ht > ml> > <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/friends/Davidov30/L1006542-w-1.JPG.ht > ml> > > Sorry, folks, no contest. > > Size does matter, up to a point, that point being determined by the size > you want to print and display, the amount of light available, and > whether all you care about is recognizable photos of your friends, or > something more. > > All the talk about "crop circles" has a point, but I think that decent > 1.5x (APS) and 1.33x (M8) crop sensors and a good, fast lens can give us > plenty of quality in normal room light. So can Micro 4/3 if you don't > crop. A cell phone or a small-sensor P&S really can't. > > Put those cameras out in bright sunlight, and some of the differences go > away, at 4x6 print or Web size. But for much bigger display, and in > anything but bright light, the P&S and cell phones don't cut it. The > gap between a cell phone or P&S and the M8 is huge. The gap between the > M8 and M9 is small, but significant, and gets more significant as > available dark gets darker. The gap between the M9 and say, a D700 is > big--I'd say bigger than the one between the M8 and the M9, but only > matters in the worst light. > > --Peter > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information